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melek_taus
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Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:48 pm Posts: 4668 Location: Where the brightest angel fell.
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ikkashinju wrote: more extremely limited toys that are fucking hard to get...YAY!!!
That's why they're so great. You appreciate them all the more when you can get your hands on 'em.
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Locomoco
Die-Cast
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:13 pm Posts: 8143 Location: San Mateo
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Sucks to be on vacation when things like this drop, but it's always good to have a few things to chase after if you miss them.
All part of the fun.
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| Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:36 pm |
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BloodDrinker6969
Die-Cast
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:13 pm Posts: 12024 Location: Chicago, Like R.Kelly
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Locomoco wrote: Sucks to be on vacation when things like this drop, but it's always good to have a few things to chase after if you miss them.  All part of the fun.
What? No bitching and moaning? Demanding more just so YOU can score? Acting as it's your right to own these? I'm confused.
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CCPfan
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Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:26 pm Posts: 1424 Location: Aurora, IL
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BloodDrinker6969
Die-Cast
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:13 pm Posts: 12024 Location: Chicago, Like R.Kelly
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I'm just being a pre-coffee douche. I was , in a smart ass way, complimenting loco on his positive attitude rather than whining, which has been rampant lately.
I DO understand the frustration, we all do, but to be negative does nothing to make things better. Plus we all know what's up with this hobby, sometimes easy, sometimes hard but now I'm repeating myself though. It's jsut all a combo of being lucky and being prepared.
Anyway, coffee-in-system and I'm cool now 
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Anti Social Andy
Die-Cast
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 am Posts: 8253 Location: The Grim North
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BloodDrinker6969 wrote: It's jsut all a combo of being lucky and being prepared.
Damn . . . I'm screwed on both counts!
Unluckiest slacker SOB . . . that's me that is! 
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maxaltoman
Side Dealer
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:11 pm Posts: 2162 Location: Land of unfree
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Locomoco wrote: Sucks to be on vacation when things like this drop, but it's always good to have a few things to chase after if you miss them.  All part of the fun.
really cool attitude.
thats the fun of collecting.
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dizzy8080
Addicted
Joined: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:55 pm Posts: 648 Location: Chicago
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maxaltoman wrote: Locomoco wrote: Sucks to be on vacation when things like this drop, but it's always good to have a few things to chase after if you miss them.  All part of the fun. really cool attitude. thats the fun of collecting.
EXACTLY!
If everything was attainable the hobby wouldnt be as fun as it is. The hunt is as good as the catch...
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pickleloaf
Super Deformed
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:19 pm Posts: 5861 Location: durham/chapel hill
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the hunt is full of adrenaline, highs, and lows
the catch is full of buyer's remorse and debt
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| Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:38 am |
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rhinomilk
Vintage
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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locomoco may post smiley icons, but he is burning with fury inside.
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dr_tongues_toys
Post Pimp
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:50 am Posts: 2784 Location: P-town, city of bridges, Roses, whatever
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rhinomilk wrote: locomoco may post smiley icons, but he is burning with fury inside.
He's on VACATION!!!!! Anyone catch that? Of course he is going to have a positive attitude!
I got rock(s) in my cart too. I am extremely curious - not a lot of the regulars saying they got it - WOOT! (I hate that!). Lots of sad little RxH faces. I guess if you scored this (I was after the V3 and the Chaos mini) your to afraid to post it.
Oh well - mantra on! "I can't have them all" "I can't have them all"................
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locomoto566
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Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 5466 Location: right behind you
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dr_tongues_toys wrote: rhinomilk wrote: locomoco may post smiley icons, but he is burning with fury inside. He's on VACATION!!!!! Anyone catch that? Of course he is going to have a positive attitude! I got rock(s) in my cart too. I am extremely curious - not a lot of the regulars saying they got it - WOOT! (I hate that!). Lots of sad little RxH faces. I guess if you scored this (I was after the V3 and the Chaos mini) your to afraid to post it. Oh well - mantra on! "I can't have them all" "I can't have them all"................
I can't afford them all, I can't afford them all. . .
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dr_tongues_toys
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Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:50 am Posts: 2784 Location: P-town, city of bridges, Roses, whatever
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Moto - there is that also!
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Krudler
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Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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dr_tongues_toys wrote: rhinomilk wrote: locomoco may post smiley icons, but he is burning with fury inside. He's on VACATION!!!!! Anyone catch that? Of course he is going to have a positive attitude! I got rock(s) in my cart too. I am extremely curious - not a lot of the regulars saying they got it - WOOT! (I hate that!). Lots of sad little RxH faces. I guess if you scored this (I was after the V3 and the Chaos mini) your to afraid to post it. Oh well - mantra on! "I can't have them all" "I can't have them all"................
Hopefully the collectors who stuck with RxH pre hype machine will be there post hype as well since that's the foundation of any solid line.
Risky stuff here though. If RxH alienates the bedrock fans they'll be left with the folks who collect for profits not joy and the house's foundation will be shaky.
The folks who see $$$$$$ signs and are buying because of that will move on soon enough if the profits aren't there for them.
I personally would never choose a business model that looks to be frustrating a loyal fan base.
I'm not sure I'll stick around. When collecting a line stops being fun I stop collecting it. I'm not there yet but too much "no Mutants for you but here's a lucky cat" and we'll see.
I knew I'd miss this so its not a shock nor am I upset by it. I just couldn't sit by the computer all day.
On the other hand my enthusiasm for RxH was incredibly higher not too long ago.
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SAMBA
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Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 1:15 pm Posts: 1228 Location: LONDON
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Krudler wrote: dr_tongues_toys wrote: rhinomilk wrote: locomoco may post smiley icons, but he is burning with fury inside. He's on VACATION!!!!! Anyone catch that? Of course he is going to have a positive attitude! I got rock(s) in my cart too. I am extremely curious - not a lot of the regulars saying they got it - WOOT! (I hate that!). Lots of sad little RxH faces. I guess if you scored this (I was after the V3 and the Chaos mini) your to afraid to post it. Oh well - mantra on! "I can't have them all" "I can't have them all"................ Hopefully the collectors who stuck with RxH pre hype machine will be there post hype as well since that's the foundation of any solid line. Risky stuff here though. If RxH alienates the bedrock fans they'll be left with the folks who collect for profits not joy and the house's foundation will be shaky. The folks who see $$$$$$ signs and are buying because of that will move on soon enough if the profits aren't there for them. I personally would never choose a business model that looks to be frustrating a loyal fan base. I'm not sure I'll stick around. When collecting a line stops being fun I stop collecting it. I'm not there yet but too much "no Mutants for you but here's a lucky cat" and we'll see. I knew I'd miss this so its not a shock nor am I upset by it. I just couldn't sit by the computer all day. On the other hand my enthusiasm for RxH was incredibly higher not too long ago.
So you have accuratly detailed the problems faced by RXH but what do you suppose the solution is for the company? or is it even a problem for the company to sort out? Has RXH become a victim of its own success?
I personally feel it is a vicious cycle of people buying for profit and to flip that is causing this situation- I think, as unpopular as it is, RXH is more popular now and must expand and must start doing bigger production runs- more to go around takes the flippers out of the equation and provides their fans with the figures- otherwise like Krudler said they risk alienating their hardcore fan base.
It seems to me that now RXH are doing more different figures but still in as limited runs as ever- this to me seems a dangerous trend for a few reasons:
It pisses of the hardcore that 'must have every release' because they cannot keep up and are not enough to go around.
and also they run the risk of burning out, more designs is sooner or later gonna make you run low on ideas and start scraping the bottom of the barrel and its gonna start effecting the quality.
I reckon the answer is less releases in bigger quantities.
( obviously only slightly bigger quantities- but I still think that will ease the problem.)
But hey this is just my opinion. 
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locomoto566
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Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 5466 Location: right behind you
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Krudler wrote: dr_tongues_toys wrote: rhinomilk wrote: locomoco may post smiley icons, but he is burning with fury inside. He's on VACATION!!!!! Anyone catch that? Of course he is going to have a positive attitude! I got rock(s) in my cart too. I am extremely curious - not a lot of the regulars saying they got it - WOOT! (I hate that!). Lots of sad little RxH faces. I guess if you scored this (I was after the V3 and the Chaos mini) your to afraid to post it. Oh well - mantra on! "I can't have them all" "I can't have them all"................ Hopefully the collectors who stuck with RxH pre hype machine will be there post hype as well since that's the foundation of any solid line. Risky stuff here though. If RxH alienates the bedrock fans they'll be left with the folks who collect for profits not joy and the house's foundation will be shaky. The folks who see $$$$$$ signs and are buying because of that will move on soon enough if the profits aren't there for them. I personally would never choose a business model that looks to be frustrating a loyal fan base. I'm not sure I'll stick around. When collecting a line stops being fun I stop collecting it. I'm not there yet but too much "no Mutants for you but here's a lucky cat" and we'll see. I knew I'd miss this so its not a shock nor am I upset by it. I just couldn't sit by the computer all day. On the other hand my enthusiasm for RxH was incredibly higher not too long ago.
I think most serious RxH collectors gave up being complete long ago. I don't think it would be much fun if I could get them all, first I'd be homeless and single and second it would be just buying without the hunt and/or the trade.
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Aaron
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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:57 pm Posts: 1027 Location: Oakland
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SAMBA wrote: and also they run the risk of burning out, more designs is sooner or later gonna make you run low on ideas and start scraping the bottom of the barrel and its gonna start effecting the quality. I reckon the answer is less releases in bigger quantities. ( obviously only slightly bigger quantities- but I still think that will ease the problem.) But hey this is just my opinion. 
I completely agree with fewer releases, keeping this up will not only burn Mori out, but it will burn out the collectors. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty much Chaos'd out.
As for bigger quantities, there is still a small amount of us. I was speaking to Josh and I think he put it quite nicely that if each figure was produced in runs of 100 they would normally sell out, but if they were produced in runs of 105 there would almost always be 5 left over. And seeing as how there really is no profit for toy producers anyway, I can see why they would choose the former over the latter.
As far as I know they have the means for producing more figures (even if they wouldn't sell), at least for overseas collectors, but Mori just won't do it.
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Krudler
Comment King
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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I'm not referring to completion so much as having to sit by your computer 24/7 only to miss out on new releases anyway.
I was out and couldn't possibly order any of these.
When collecting a line feels like a job then its time to move on imho.
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Krudler
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SAMBA wrote: So you have accuratly detailed the problems faced by RXH but what do you suppose the solution is for the company? or is it even a problem for the company to sort out? Has RXH become a victim of its own success?
I personally feel it is a vicious cycle of people buying for profit and to flip that is causing this situation- I think, as unpopular as it is, RXH is more popular now and must expand and must start doing bigger production runs- more to go around takes the flippers out of the equation and provides their fans with the figures- otherwise like Krudler said they risk alienating their hardcore fan base.
I missed this before. I'm not sure I've accurately detailed the problem really its just how it appears to me.
If production is upped the folks buying for profit bail and you're left with dead stock. This is assuming the V3 and Rainbow weren't meant to be extremely limited.
I seem to remember a couple Chaos' that were sort of pre ordered then produced, thats the only realistic solution that won't result in a frustrated fan base or dead stock from overproduction.
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Dean
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Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 6232 Location: 415
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I don't believe the problem is flippers, at least not yet. It's simpler than that. More collectors plus fewer units available directly from S7, not that I know with certainty. Despite my complaint about the flipping on this board, it's not really rampant here or at the auction sites so far as I'm aware. You see maybe three or four recent releases being flipped, generally, not always at the really infuriating prices. I think people really want the toys for themselves and "flippers" are being blamed as a scapegoat. I hope so anyway. The distro network was intended to help people but I'm starting to agree with those saying that if the distro stores don't put the releases online, it's not helping very many people. Just musing "out loud" here ... Ignore me if I'm way off base. Agreed about pre-ordering. If it can be done and if Mori feels that it's not a compromise, it would help.
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| Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:25 am |
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SAMBA
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Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 1:15 pm Posts: 1228 Location: LONDON
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Pre-ordering- made to order would be great. Everyone is a winner that way. But realistically I dont think it would happen.
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soda pop SMASH
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Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:55 am Posts: 681 Location: New Zealand
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I also think pre-ordering would be good if it's feasible
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| Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:34 am |
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Krudler
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Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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SAMBA wrote: Pre-ordering- made to order would be great. Everyone is a winner that way. But realistically I dont think it would happen.
I think it did on a Fighting Spirit Chaos and the KT splatter Chaos Man. Maybe I was in a daze though.
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Dean
Prototype
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 6232 Location: 415
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Worked beautifully for red fortune kitty.
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tavaro
S7 Royalty
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 pm Posts: 3165 Location: L.A.
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dr_tongues_toys wrote: I got rock(s) in my cart too. I am extremely curious - not a lot of the regulars saying they got it - WOOT! (I hate that!). Lots of sad little RxH faces. I guess if you scored this (I was after the V3 and the Chaos mini) your to afraid to post it.
I aint 'scarred... I scored HARD.. w00t I love this RxH shit!!!
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