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thought i would pull this topic out of the death proof dvd thread

got any trashy, exploitative, tasteless, pointless, or otherwise horribly entertaining films you've seen lately? post them here and tell us why you hated them or loved them

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i'll start it off with this one.

SS hell camp from 1977

plot wise this one is about as bad as it gets. not much redeeming here except for a few scenes with nazi scientists experimenting on nude women with 70s pubes.

i fast forwarded through most of the war story plot.

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and i'll post one that i really liked

switchblade sisters from 1975

lots of women beating the shit out of one another and even a gun battle and prison violence in there. this one is worth checking out if you like the cheesy 70s gang films, although the chick with the hat is pretty annoying

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and i'll post one that i really liked

switchblade sisters from 1975

lots of women beating the shit out of one another and even a gun battle and prison violence in there. this one is worth checking out if you like the cheesy 70s gang films, although the chick with the hat is pretty annoying


one of my favorites

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you know this is pretty much all I watch, right?

any particular genre you're looking for?

the last thing I watched was:

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and before that:

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any particular genre you're looking for?


talked to missy a little earlier about it - hence the new thread.

i'm looking for any genre.

i just added thriller: a cruel picture and ms. 45 to my netflix also

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The Call Her One Eye (Thriller) is great. not sure if Netflix carries the version with the hardcore inserts (not sure if that matters to you or not). Tarantino ripped stuff right from it for Kill Bill.

some of my favorites are:

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are there two versions of thriller? they call her one eye and a cruel picture have the same cover (except one is yellow and one is red) and both are from 1974


they are the same movie. the variations are the one contains hardcore inserts (aka extreme close ups of porn clips) and the other doesn't.

if you're into that kinda thing, the Red cover is the one you want. if you'd rather avoid that in favor of tamer sleaze, the Yellow cover is what you want.


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For whatever reason (for sure not the real animal crap!) I've watched a lot of the 70s Cannibal ones.
Probably my fav. would be:
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I'd say of coarse the 2 2nd most notable are Cannibal Holocaust (for feel bad movie of all time), and Cannibal Farox (for gross out over the top bad taste)

Eaten Alive is a good resource for reading up on all these.
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One of the winners for unpleasant movies I've seen would be Men Behind the Sun. I saw it in VHS bootleg days, and I must say it's not one I will be revisiting.


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ha you quoted me before i deleted that post

i read user reviews on netflix and someone mentioned that same thing

thanks for the help!

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The Call Her One Eye (Thriller) is great. not sure if Netflix carries the version with the hardcore inserts (not sure if that matters to you or not). Tarantino ripped stuff right from it for Kill Bill.



I was curios about this movie as well. I must say, I didn't like it though...


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it's a little difficult for me to really recommend certain things when I don't know you personally or know where your good taste vs. bad taste boundaries lie.

it's very easy to recommend something that I think is fantastic but then have someone be very offended by it hahaha. for instance, a lot of these movies have sexist/racist/just plain disgusting overtones that many people would find unpleasant, even if the whole point of the movie is specifically to shock and offend. not knowing how you feel about those things and where your limits are, it's hard for me to say "oh, go ahead and watch Fight For Your Life or Salo: 120 Days In Sodom - you'll love 'em!"


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as far as movies go, i am offended by nothing :lol:

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I'm never offended by a movie. I do however run through almost every other emotion. Generally dealing with this kind of movie, I will find my feelings are more directed at the director than the movie itself. With Thriller, I felt the violence and rape as the vehicle to get nudity and sex into the theater off putting. I guess I found the directors chief objective was to have sex on film and get it into theaters. I didn't think the violence etc. was justified by the story, plot... There are much more morally abhorrent movies that I think stand up better because of different end intentions. You mentioned Salo for example. I think that one would be a good example.
Now... on another hand it could be that I just don't like this type of Grindhouse movie. I do prefer the more surreal exploitation movies that seemed to come out of Europe in the 70s.

speeching of Salo, here is an interesting article from the Criterion page. http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=17&eid=40&section=essay


edit: The more I think about it the more I'm not sure Thriller fits under my statement of the whole story being a vehicle for sex. I only saw it once, and admittedly wrote it off fairly quickly. I would have to re-watch it before I can stand by my earlier statement. I would say there are a number of cases where I could remove the title "thriller" and stick something else in though. :lol:


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I'm never offended by a movie. I do however run through almost every other emotion. Generally dealing with this kind of movie, I will find my feelings are more directed at the director than the movie itself. With Thriller, I felt the violence and rape as the vehicle to get nudity and sex into the theater off putting. I guess I found the directors chief objective was to have sex on film and get it into theaters. I didn't think the violence etc. was justified by the story, plot... There are much more morally abhorrent movies that I think stand up better because of different end intentions. You mentioned Salo for example. I think that one would be a good example.
Now... on another hand it could be that I just don't like this type of Grindhouse movie. I do prefer the more surreal exploitation movies that seemed to come out of Europe in the 70s.

speeching of Salo, here is an interesting article from the Criterion page. http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=17&eid=40&section=essay


edit: The more I think about it the more I'm not sure Thriller fits under my statement of the whole story being a vehicle for sex. I only saw it once, and admittedly wrote it off fairly quickly. I would have to re-watch it before I can stand by my earlier statement. I would say there are a number of cases where I could remove the title "thriller" and stick something else in though. :lol:


if putting nudity/sex into a movie as a selling point is something that you're morally opposed to, than I would suggest steering clear of most of these films.

I mean, they're called "exploitation films" for a reason. :)

that said, I would most likely point the finger at the producers more often than the directors for the overabundance of needless skin and sex. they're the ones trying to make money and therefore were often the ones to push for more and more sex and violence. I think often the director was interested in making a movie, and depending on which director you're talking about, making a beautifully shot movie in spite of a garbage plot/story filled with pointless sex.

many Japanese pink films for example, while overtly just porno films, are often very artistic and believe it or not can contain a message. Up and coming directors that can't get a larger studio to produce a film for them take these jobs in order to get a film made. the producers, however, often don't care what else is in the movie as long as there is some skin, therefore giving the writer/directors freedom to basically make it as artistic or bizarre as they please and give it whatever meaning they want.

there is a pink film from only a few years ago called The Glamorous Life of Sachiko Hanai. it's unmistakably a porn film, yet it has a drastic Anti-Bush/Anti-War theme which runs throughout and is presented in a style that gets the point across.


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if putting nudity/sex into a movie as a selling point is something that you're morally opposed to, than I would suggest steering clear of most of these films.

I mean, they're called "exploitation films" for a reason. :)


Ha ha ha... thats very true.

I don't think I was very clear before. I am definitely not opposed to sex or nudity in films.

I had just felt that this director was making a movie to have sex on the screen. He chose violence and rape as the means to get it on the screen. In the case of this movie or say "I spit on your grave", I find this to be very off putting. Not even something I'm morally apposed to, but just makes me feel bad and I question the intentions of the director.
Thats also not to say I'm a big prude when it comes to the context of violence and nudity... as I mentioned before I'm a fan of the Italian Cannibal moves.. they are full of both, but it just seemed a little different.

hmmm... not sure if I've articulated that better or not.


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On the topic... I found this a while back.
http://forum.dead-donkey.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6967&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=b6c0e4a5d3993dd6da29d2ace6263518
It may be the most complete list of exploitation movies I've ever seen.


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oh man, there are WAAAAAY more than that!


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that must be a good link... big brother auto blocks it here at work :)

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oh man, there are WAAAAAY more than that!

:lol: Sure, but I've never seen a more complete list. You scrolled through all the pages of it?


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I watched Caligula recently. God, was it boring. How did they manage to accomplish that?


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Most people on this board are too young to have seen "grindhouse" flicks in actual grindhouses. I am, even though I'm on the upper end of what I perceive to be the average age group here (roughly 25-45.) I do remember seeing some of the blaxploitation flicks such as "Cotton Comes to Harlem" on TV (edited of course) just a few years after they played in theaters, and like most have really fond memories of cheap and silly horror/monster/science fiction movies on late night "Ghoul" and "Creature Features" shows. A favorite from my childhood was "Equinox" which until recently could only be found on really bad bootleg VHS. It was fun to have to hunt things like that down back in the day, but so much nicer to see it getting the classy Criterion treatment. I love that Criterion snobs hate that stuff. They don't "get it" about how even "low" cinema is a very important part of cinema's history.

My best friend just bought "Queen of Outer Space" starring a young and pretty Zsa Zsa Gabor. Gotta borrow that one.

A shocker that I "enjoyed" a few years ago is "Jungle Holocaust," one of many Italian-made cannibal movies. Not for the easily offended. Although it's stock footage, there is some animal cruelty in the movie that I find hard to take even though I prepare myself before watching movies like this. What's so odd and notable about this one is its quality. It was shot on location in Asian jungles using actual indigenous people. It was shot in amorphic widescreen with high-quality lenses and film stock. The protagonist was a well-loved Italian opera and movie star, and if I recall correctly, the "friendly native girl" (who is pretty cute) was Miss Hong Kong prior to demeaning herself for the role. Despite the higher-class technical affectations of the film, it really is exploitive schlock, as intended. Until the restored DVD version was released several years ago, the movie was only available in heavily edited versions for various international markets. If you have an occasional taste for indulging this sort of thing, this is one of the "better" but least-talked about of the cannibal movies. It's more linear than most, better acted. The DVD comes with some great documentary extras. I'm going to feel guilty for even mentioning this thing LOL. Pardon me while I go take a shower, or watch some Kurosawa for redemption...


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A shocker that I "enjoyed" a few years ago is "Jungle Holocaust," one of many Italian-made cannibal movies.


Hey! The video store I work on Fri nights just got that one in. I was waiting to hear from someone who liked it before sitting down with it. Thanks! I'll have to check it out. Have you seen Mountain of the Cannibal god? the one I put the poster up from earlier? If so, how would you feel they compare.


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A shocker that I "enjoyed" a few years ago is "Jungle Holocaust," one of many Italian-made cannibal movies.


Hey! The video store I work on Fri nights just got that one in. I was waiting to hear from someone who liked it before sitting down with it. Thanks! I'll have to check it out. Have you seen Mountain of the Cannibal god? the one I put the poster up from earlier? If so, how would you feel they compare.


If you like Holocaust and Ferox, you'll like Jungle Holocaust. it's the first of Deodato's 3 cannibal films. definitely on the tamer side than either of those others, but still plenty of violence. lots and lots of male nudity as well.


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Yeah, about which the actor was later very embarrassed LOL. But to be fair there's female too.

Nah, haven't seen "Mountain God." Most of the "bad" movies I've seen in the past two years have been kaiju movies or Japanese horror.

I tried watching Madonna's version of "Swept Away" in a "so bad it's good" context, but it didn't work. It's just icky bad. Bleh.


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