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logang1
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:58 am Posts: 3992
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 So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
Longtime YJA bidders, please drop an opinion. This YJA handle was an infamous sniper before YJA changed its bidding policy.
What do you think?
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:12 am |
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tavaro
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Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 pm Posts: 3165 Location: L.A.
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
Im not a fan of shigahara71.
I would be so bold to say yes, something not right w/ that user.
Jason, do you know what policy changed? was it instated to stop shill bidders etc?
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:17 am |
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chottomatte
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Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:15 am Posts: 905 Location: Toronto
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
Oh I asked about shiga before too, someone responded that they are legit with a lot of cash.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:20 am |
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logang1
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:58 am Posts: 3992
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
tavaro wrote: do you know what policy changed? was it instated to stop shill bidders etc? No, just that now you can't snipe on YJA, I believe that you can enter a last moment bid, and then the auction conclusion is set back another 10 min. and bidders can continue to reset the "clock" until there are no more bids.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:22 am |
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
chottomatte wrote: Oh I asked about shiga before too, someone responded that they are legit with a lot of cash. I'm not so sure about that.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:22 am |
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chottomatte
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Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:15 am Posts: 905 Location: Toronto
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
That's what I thought because I see them buying and selling on both ends. I may have even purchased something from them before. Can't say for sure unless someone actually knows them in person.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:30 am |
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Rich
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Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:46 pm Posts: 11806
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
the 10 min. thing isnt new, thats been around for years.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:30 am |
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
LASH wrote: the 10 min. thing isnt new, thats been around for years. Ok, then I guess its only recently that I've been screwed by it.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:38 am |
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Rich
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
logang1 wrote: LASH wrote: the 10 min. thing isnt new, thats been around for years. Ok, then I guess its only recently that I've been screwed by it. How where you screwed ? I always liked it as you had the option to think about what your doing. But I can see that shillbidders can make a killing this way.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:41 am |
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liquidsky
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Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm Posts: 7412 Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
LASH wrote: the 10 min. thing isnt new, thats been around for years. Yep. Actually makes more sense than the ebay setup. Discourages sniping in my view.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:41 am |
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
LASH wrote: How were you screwed ?
I always liked it as you had the option to think about what your doing. But I can see that shillbidders can make a killing this way. Rich, a couple of times recently it just seemed like some bidding IDs have been used to jack up prices at the very last moment, and it was an alternating set of IDs.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:43 am |
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eladelight
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Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:16 pm Posts: 149 Location: HOUSTON TX
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
i'm all for sniping!! 
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:44 am |
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Rich
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
logang1 wrote: LASH wrote: How were you screwed ?
I always liked it as you had the option to think about what your doing. But I can see that shillbidders can make a killing this way. Rich, a couple of times recently it just seemed like some bidding IDs have been used to jack up prices at the very last moment, and it was an alternating set of IDs. Yeah I have felt the pain also, so I'm betting your right. But in the end if I had to chose I would chose the 10 minute rule everytime.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:46 am |
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Locomoco
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
logang1 wrote: LASH wrote: How were you screwed ?
I always liked it as you had the option to think about what your doing. But I can see that shillbidders can make a killing this way. Rich, a couple of times recently it just seemed like some bidding IDs have been used to jack up prices at the very last moment, and it was an alternating set of IDs. Well, I'm sure there are a few sellers out there that recognize which buyers tend to go large on YJA sales, so it shouldn't be too surprising that some shill bidding might go on. Best thing to do is set your final price, and if they outbid it... let them win it. If they get stuck having to pay for the stuff they're bidding up, it might make them think twice.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:47 am |
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liquidsky
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And at least YJA doesn't hide bidders names unlike ebay
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:48 am |
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
liquidsky wrote: And at least YJA doesn't hide bidders names unlike ebay Totally agree.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 11:59 am |
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Rich
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
liquidsky wrote: And at least YJA doesn't hide bidders names unlike ebay this is the WORST new feature.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 1:22 pm |
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garadama
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Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:41 pm Posts: 1892 Location: Financial Hub
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
this name sounds familiar...
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locomoto566
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Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 5466 Location: right behind you
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
I'm shigahara71, so you can all piss-off.
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melek_taus
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Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:48 pm Posts: 4668 Location: Where the brightest angel fell.
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
DOH! locomoto566 wrote: I'm shigahara71, so you can all piss-off.
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| Fri May 23, 2008 7:42 pm |
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
locomoto566 wrote: I'm shigahara71, so you can all piss-off. Nuh, uh....
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maxaltoman
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Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:11 pm Posts: 2162 Location: Land of unfree
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
difficult to tell yet but he looks legit.
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
maxaltoman wrote: difficult to tell yet but he looks legit. Joe, based on what exactly?
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| Sat May 24, 2008 8:23 am |
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logang1
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 Re: So, is shigahara71naguchi a shill bidder? Flipper network?
Kaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnn!!!! http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/sh ... =b89061743Totally nuts. I finally had to put the crack pipe down. Two more of these have been sold in the 40,000 yen range recently, but no header for either of thoses..... Yikes.
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locomoto566
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Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 5466 Location: right behind you
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