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BloodDrinker6969
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 Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
So I've been a big AWK fan for a long time, since before he got "big" thanks to some friends in the record bizz. Anyway, I've met him, twice, seen him a bunch and had some BASIC history on him. A friend of mine sent me this site, which led me to others. I was clueless to this whole other controversy with the guy. I know a few people here are into him, but even if you're NOT this is kind of interesting, even if it is all BS. Not work safe by the way, I guess there's some posted scans of interviews of his in Playboy, just a warning. http://awilkeskrier.homestead.com/A lot of what I read said after 2005 there was a different AWK. I don't buy that, with the exception of a few weird pics he looks the same to me, just skinnier, but the basic facial features are all there. In the end it seems like a lot of over-analyzed crap, but I thought it was cool and would share. Insane master plan to mess with pop culture? Secret music project made to make money gone wrong? Dorks with too much time on their hands to over analyze some guy who's career kinda tanked so he got desperate and just got weird? YOU DECIDE!
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Hank
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
Okay, what the fuck?
I love AWK. I saw him quite a few times, hands down the best shows I've seen. Super nice dude. I don't want to read the whole thing but if someone invented that image, songs, whatever, I still love it.
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
Andrew WK live was quite an excellent experience - I smiled my face off the whole show, and especially enjoyed teh audience participation.
So seriously I wanted to read this, but my attention span is just too short to wade thru this - I need the summary version.
Wasn't he part of teh Fischer Spooner collective at some point?
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
I saw Andrew WK (I think in '04) and it was one of the most high-energy, positive performances I've ever seen. This guy was like the Tony Robbins of rock; motivating everyone to dance, enjoy themselves and don't be shy to let loose. At the end of the set he invited everyone on stage, which of course turned into an equipment throwing melee... which he seemed to enjoy every minute of. Seemed like a super guy, to me. Got to meet him, only for a brief moment, but something about him said to me that this is a guy that enjoys life.
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That's alot to read. It seems like that guy has missed his calling, why isn't he writing about 9/11 or aliens, or the aliens responsible for 9/11...?
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VELOCITRON
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
Sheesh...I got about a third of the way down before the semi-coherent part devolved into numerological diatribes on defunct websites and I gave up. But then I skipped down to the bottom, and it looks like it gets progressively more and more insane. Lost of stuff about the "hollow Earth theory" and "reptilians" and Andrew planning to "craft his own non-existence" as a high schooler.
I seriously feel dumber having read part of that...
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BloodDrinker6969
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
I pretty much only read the first portion than started jumping to other sites.
To Summarize:
AWK is totally fake according to some and this "Steeve Mike" is a collective of people, including Andrew and his father in some theories, who are behind it all. BUT Andrew rstarted moving away from what "Steev Mike" wanted and so "Steev Mike" began threatening to destroy the image and eventually REPLACED Andrew with a different Andrew?!?!
That's what I made of it, all those numbers are codes or something breaking down quotes of AWK and stuff. But overall it's all meant to explain why AWK kind of disappeared in 2005 and suddenly stopped making music. There's TONS of theories, and all involve this "Steev Mike" character.
I'd say read the first few paragraphs BEFORE "News and Updates" than go to the very bottom of the page an check out the "Real Story Theory."
Just weird, there's a lot of stuff out there like this. No that I believe it, but I thought it was weird/interesting how there's so much of this out there.
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VELOCITRON
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
Definitely interesting, if not completely mentally sound.
Should have said before, but thanks for posting this up! At the very least it inspired me to throw on some AWK for the second half of the day! The 12" single he put out on Bulb (Party Till You Puke) is easily in my top 3 favorite records of all time. I could put that on repeat from morning till night and not get sick of it.
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BloodDrinker6969
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
That's a good-un! I like a lot of his pre-I Get Wet stuff/Bulb stuff, hell I everything he does minus a few tracks here and there. I wish he'd finally get his crap together and do something other than motivational speaking. After "The Wolf" it seemed like a lot of interest died in him and I had hope when "Close Calls..." was released but than it's like it all stopped again (hence the crazy theories.) Some of the best concerts I've ever been too, and one of the coolest guys to hang out with on a bus. VELOCITRON wrote: Definitely interesting, if not completely mentally sound.
Should have said before, but thanks for posting this up! At the very least it inspired me to throw on some AWK for the second half of the day! The 12" single he put out on Bulb (Party Till You Puke) is easily in my top 3 favorite records of all time. I could put that on repeat from morning till night and not get sick of it. My wife's theory is that he just got heavy into crazier drugs. She says "look at him when he started he was a muscular guy, but now he's lost so much weight and you don't just lose muscle that fast from diets." This is also her explanation of why he's been acting so balls out nuts (more so than when he began his career) and doing things like speaking instead of music. I actually know a guy who's an old Bulb Records pal of his, I gotta write him about this crap just to see what he thinks.
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
VELOCITRON wrote: The 12" single he put out on Bulb (Party Till You Puke) is easily in my top 3 favorite records of all time. I could put that on repeat from morning till night and not get sick of it. Absolutely! Now I wanna spin that!
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missy
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
dude, I went through a period of intense obsession with this for a few days. I seriously read about it for a whole day once. INSANE stuff. I didn't even read your post. haha. I'm scared to get back in!
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missy
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ps: for those with the short attention spans. read it. its so fucking interesting. I think I read everything on that guy's site and then ended up doing several hours of my own digging.
seriously, its so interesting! i mean look at new pictures of AWK in comparison and its totally a different guy!
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BloodDrinker6969
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
missy wrote: ps: for those with the short attention spans. read it. its so fucking interesting. I think I read everything on that guy's site and then ended up doing several hours of my own digging.
seriously, its so interesting! i mean look at new pictures of AWK in comparison and its totally a different guy! See I met him PRE-2005, and I met the same guy in the POST 2005 pics. I have pics of myself with him and I'm generally good with faces. I think some pics of him come out weird or SOME are NOT him, but I don't think he claims it IS him. He posts tons of pics of other people who dress like him for fun all the time. The pictures of him on I Get Wet and The Wolf are the same guy I met pre-2005 which is the same guy in post-2005 pics. I think he just lost a lot of weight. ALSO he's the type of guy that when he shaves he looks a lot different. I do. I look 7 years older once I get some facial hair going. I'm obsessed now though, gah!
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
who the hell is AWK?
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missy
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but no, I'm talking about 2008 andrew. I believe 04 and 05 was the same guy, but:   If its him he's had a shitload of surgery. The features are not even close to the same. clean cut & makeup or not. His mouth is completely different, and he has a different nose. Its a totally new guy.
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missy
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also, this is one of the most interesting stories to me (From a former acting class classmate) , considering this is the claim that is being made about him in the conpiracy. Quote: One day in the acting class the teacher had us all stand up and talk about what are dreams for the future were. Most of the kids said "To be a famous actor", one other girl said "To be a star on Broadway", and I said "To make movies". Andrew went last and stood up and said, very slowly, "I want to craft my own non-existence." The teacher asked him what he meant and said "Exactly what I said." The teacher was clearly annoyed and the whole class rolled it's eyes because Andrew was always saying weird stuff that made no sense. I thought what he said sounded cool though, so after class, while we were walking to our cars, I asked Andrew how he was going to craft his own non-existence). I don't remember what he said word for word, but essentially he said, "First I'm going to make myself undeniably exist as a recognizable and identifiable form, and then I'm going to spend the rest of my life working to eliminate it and prove that it's existence was an impossible illusion all along, but because people have already seen it they will experience the sensation equal to maximum pleasure." It was something like that, obviously some of what he said was different, but that's essentially what he told me. I remember it well because it made a huge impact on me and I've thought about it a lot since.
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BloodDrinker6969
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
I saw that above quote, that somehow makes some sense. It's like an Andy Kaufman joke on acid.
I can't see those pics, just "IMAGE" is it just me?
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missy
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BloodDrinker6969 wrote: I saw that above quote, that somehow makes some sense. It's like an Andy Kaufman joke on acid.
I can't see those pics, just "IMAGE" is it just me? sorry, try going to www.andrewwk.com and click pictures, check out page 2 the first row. (or the very last pic on page 1)
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missy
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you got me started. I seriously love this kind of stuff. Check this out too> its regarding the live dvd "Andrew WK-Who Knows? 2000-2004" http://ripawk.blogspot.com/Quote: With the release of his new DVD Andrew W.K. has achieved the impossible. He has succeeded in paying a respectful tribute to the past six years of his career, while simultaneously re-framing and re-contextualizing those years to suggest that his popular public persona was just that, a persona – an image as deliberately and meticulously engineered as the music it was designed to champion. Quote: Watching the DVD it’s impossible to ignore the feeling of finality it conjures. A strong funereal tone pervades. Even the box art, with its memorial dates and its distorted martyr like image signifies the film inside as a post-mortem product. The letter signed “Dad” included in the accompanying booklet, and its seeming acknowledgment of Andrew W.K. as a manufactured image also connotes – if not death – then at least an ending of sorts. And even if one ignores or construes these signifiers differently, there is no escaping them in the film itself. Its metaphors and symbology are hardly subtle in this regard. Melancholy music plays over slow motion scenes of W.K.’s stage antics, lending them a gravity and solemnity more befitting a vigil than a party. Directly following one of the film’s most disturbing scenes, a candle (designated as “Andrew’s Candle” in the DVD chapter titles) is snuffed out.
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
AWK = Steev Mike. Nuff said. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he didn't exist, right ?
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BloodDrinker6969
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
I dunno, still looks like the same guy to me. I'm looking at my copy of "The Wolf" and all these newer pics. Again it just seems like some weight loss, but that big-goofy grin, the pointed ends of his mouth, the nose. All looks the same to me. I know weight loss is kind of a weak excuse, but I used to be 300 lbs. and now I'm 190 and 10 years older. I look younger and a lot different. You wouldn't think it'd make THAT big of a difference but it does, well did for me.
Going on looks I still think he's the one guy. Maybe he directly did a lot to morph his image so these types of debates would exist and push his "non-existence" agenda? Like he thought "if I change my look ever so slightly over years by weight loss, make-up, lighting etc. people will believe I'm someone else, THAN will believe I didn't exist" or some such AWK-crap along those lines.
I want to believe, I just don't.
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missy
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
since you have met him, you should watch some of the newer videos he does online. (i'm sure some are on youtube, but its blocked here).
I watched them and its this weird subdued guy. the energy is gone.
i don't think its him at all. I believe
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BloodDrinker6969
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 Re: Andrew WK vs Steev Mike
I've seen them on his myspace, he is a lot calmer, but weird. This is where my wifes "drugs" theory comes in. She said he probably just did some weird crap and that can explain a LOT. Lack of productivity, weird-calm attitude, reggae producer, weight loss etc. I just don't want to believe THAT either, it'd make me too sad  I'm down to be Scully btw. My favorite memory of a show of his was he did the "Kit Kat" song he did for their commercial and threw out Kit Kats, I was at the front of the stage and got like 4 Kit Kats!
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Why would he hold on to the same style for like forever ? He's a creative artist after all and jumps unpredictably between music genres. The past year he's performed with Baby Dee, Will Oldham and Current 93... throw his production work for Lee Perry in the mix and that's quite a varied soup. Where's the days of The Beast People ?
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missy
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BloodDrinker6969 wrote: I've seen them on his myspace, he is a lot calmer, but weird. This is where my wifes "drugs" theory comes in. She said he probably just did some weird crap and that can explain a LOT. Lack of productivity, weird-calm attitude, reggae producer, weight loss etc. I just don't want to believe THAT either, it'd make me too sad  I'm down to be Scully btw. My favorite memory of a show of his was he did the "Kit Kat" song he did for their commercial and threw out Kit Kats, I was at the front of the stage and got like 4 Kit Kats! dude. there were kit kat codes! 92011120 - This site followed the "zipcode" information presented on "SteevMike". If you combined the "9,0,0,2,2,1,1,1,1,1" numbers from the "Wilshire Boulevard" street address into the "1192011120" order, you would connect. When you translate the numbers "1192011120" as code, you get an even more bizarre connection. "(11)(9)(20)-(11)(1)(20)" translates into: "KIT KAT". So essentially, "1192011120.com" is another way of saying "Kit Kat.com" he denied the kit kat song-or something.. Sometime not long after that, Andrew did a live interview on a college radio station with an internet broadcast (sorry, I don’t remember the station or the date). I listened live and they were taking questions via instant message. I sent one in asking him to talk about the Kit Kat ads and the new song. When they read it to Andrew, he seemed surprised, as if he didn’t expect anyone to know about that (though the ads had been airing for a couple weeks and I had talked to several others who’d seen them). After a long silence, he said “I can’t talk about that” (now infamous words I suppose!). The interviewers didn’t quite know what to make of this (they apparently hadn’t seen the ads), and after a few more awkward moments Andrew covered by pretending he thought I was talking about the classic Kit-Kat theme song. They all sang that song, then moved on as if the weird moment hadn’t occurred. I was very confused by his reluctance to talk about something that was clearly not a secret, being aired on TV all over the country! Then, within 48 hours of that interview, there was an AWKWorld.com news posting heralding the ads and the new song, and Andrew had answered a Q&A asking essentially the same thing I did.
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