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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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 9/11.
Is it me, or are there a lot of documentaries and specials about the subject airing on the Discovery Channel, History Channel, etc. these days? There's something sort of unsettling to me about that. Sort of cheapens it when they treat it like Shark Week.
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same way last year and the year before and it will be this way for years to come
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| Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:19 pm |
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living dead
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Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:53 pm Posts: 6349 Location: Yokosuka, Japan
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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redhanded
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Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:16 pm Posts: 2135
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Its still unsettling, I can't watch really any of it.
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akum6n
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Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:03 am Posts: 6162 Location: Shima
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Maybe these days it's those who recycle the past that are forced to remember it.
The commercial spin on that incident irks me. I keep seeing this TV ad for a set of commemorative silver coins based around 9/11 and the monument. This doesn't strike me as something to commemorate. Let's have a set for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (heads and tails!) while we're at it.
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rhinomilk
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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i really liked what we did with ground zero after 9/11... we showed the world that after a major disaster, we are able to rebuild ourselves to be stronger than before and move forward. we proved ourselves once again after hurricane katrina
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bryce_r
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Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:57 am Posts: 7991 Location: SanJose
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We are a nation that has become transfixed with reality tv and "realtime" events. It's seem like the annual tribute to me but I think the commercials are poring in a lot more especially due to the election year.
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audiodifficulties
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Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:51 pm Posts: 3948 Location: a font of negativity
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Start reading Baudrillard.
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BloodDrinker6969
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Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:13 pm Posts: 12024 Location: Chicago, Like R.Kelly
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I think it's important to hold some tributes to it, but at the level it's been on TV it's more about ratings than respect. That said, I'd rather have a ton than none. Why aren't there many Pearl Harbor tributes though? I KNOW why, that generation has faded, but it's sad. Outside of showing the crap movie there isn't that much.
The amount may cheapen it, but I feel it's better than none.
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rhinomilk wrote: i really liked what we did with ground zero after 9/11... we showed the world that after a major disaster, we are able to rebuild ourselves to be stronger than before and move forward. we proved ourselves once again after hurricane katrina This was meant to be in purple, right?
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silver_lining_man
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Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:46 pm Posts: 4080 Location: mini-soda
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Alice wrote: rhinomilk wrote: i really liked what we did with ground zero after 9/11... we showed the world that after a major disaster, we are able to rebuild ourselves to be stronger than before and move forward. we proved ourselves once again after hurricane katrina This was meant to be in purple, right? this just made me shoot dr. pepper through my nose!
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Krudler
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rhinomilk wrote: i really liked what we did with ground zero after 9/11... we showed the world that after a major disaster, we are able to rebuild ourselves to be stronger than before and move forward. we proved ourselves once again after hurricane katrina A grand statement on our Government's priorities and ideals. Well said Rhino. Don't mess with the USA or we'll rebuild bigger and better...
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kidclam
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Krudler wrote: rhinomilk wrote: i really liked what we did with ground zero after 9/11... we showed the world that after a major disaster, we are able to rebuild ourselves to be stronger than before and move forward. we proved ourselves once again after hurricane katrina A grand statement on our Government's priorities and ideals. Well said Rhino. Don't mess with the USA or we'll rebuild bigger and better... And owe more money. 
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Krudler
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Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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And invade the wrong country for no reason, commit war crimes, violate the Geneva convention, whinge like a 5 year old when Russia retaliates against Georgian aggression by following precedents set by the USA in Iraq (except Russia had real reasons to invade), etc etc etc.
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marswillrule
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Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:48 am Posts: 1353 Location: Planet Motherfucker
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911 is a joke
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gatchabert
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Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:41 pm Posts: 6389 Location: 415
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audiodifficulties wrote: Start reading Baudrillard. Simulacra...Is it just me or is his writing style just too difficult to read through?
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Hank
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Joined: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:12 pm Posts: 4260 Location: Arizona
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marswillrule wrote: 911 is a joke It's so sad but I agree. Somehow higher powers have turned it into this cash cow/fear thing. I'm not sure if it's true but I have heard that 9/11 is now trade marked, so whoever did that is seeing some serious money. I also found it really weird how graphic the images they showed at RNC. Fear, be scared, unless we elect McCain we're all fucked. Don't worry though, once he's in office he'll finally admit to owning that box that makes stuff magically appear. That's how we'll catch the terrorists. Blah!
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redhanded
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Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:16 pm Posts: 2135
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Darth Hank wrote: marswillrule wrote: 911 is a joke It's so sad but I agree. Somehow higher powers have turned it into this cash cow/fear thing. I'm not sure if it's true but I have heard that 9/11 is now trade marked, so whoever did that is seeing some serious money. I also found it really weird how graphic the images they showed at RNC. Fear, be scared, unless we elect McCain we're all fucked. Don't worry though, once he's in office he'll finally admit to owning that box that makes stuff magically appear. That's how we'll catch the terrorists. Blah! A date or a series of numbers trademarked? Nahhh, someone is having some fun with you...
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Joe
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Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:55 pm Posts: 12318
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Don't remember 9/11 as what the government and media has made it. Remember it for what exactly happened that day. RIP to all those that have died and respect to all the heroes that were helping to look for survivors.
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Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:24 am Posts: 2928 Location: Canada
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marswillrule wrote: 911 is a joke Maybe in your town...
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Collin Shots
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Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:05 am Posts: 1868 Location: 1503
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akum6n wrote: Let's have a set for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (heads and tails!) while we're at it. Didn't some toy company do that, making the little bombs a DIY platform? Maybe they are planning on some 9/11 DIY planes. 9/11 should not be commemorated it should be remembered as a tragic day that showed invicible america how frail things can be and how people in general, not only americans, can come together during a tragedy. I don't need cutesy marketing silver 20 dollar "bills" that have a 9 and a 11 in the corner because it adds up to 20 bucks, leave it to corporate america to make money on a tragedy that coincedently happened to corporate buildings. If we do need "change" its not someone in the white house that is going to make it happen, its going to take the whole population to start thinking differently and being active in what goes on. A president is simply propaganda: the housing market, jobs, energy prices, economy, wars, bla bla bla are not decided by him as much as people want to hope so they can just elect someone and solve everything, they are direct factors of decisions the general population make, given some of those are based on false claims nobody bothered to research (like WMD's that made EVERYONE want to go to war here) or not knowing how things work at all (like adjustable rate mortgages that crashed the housing market). As far as the japanese bombings, we just dropped those and got out without some rebuilding plans or exit strategy and they as people came together and rebuilt into the amazing country they are today, maybe we should just peace out of iraq and their people can come together in their time of tragedy. end rant. 
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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Collin Shots wrote: Didn't some toy company do that, making the little bombs a DIY platform? Maybe they are planning on some 9/11 DIY planes. We had a thread about these a while back: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3741Quote: As far as the japanese bombings, we just dropped those and got out without some rebuilding plans or exit strategy and they as people came together and rebuilt into the amazing country they are today, Uh, I think you should read up a bit on that subject...
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rhinomilk
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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yeah, you should definately read up more on the bombings of japan (not saying that i'm an expert or that i've read up enough on the subject), but i see it as a terrible event that ended an even more terrible war
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Collin Shots
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Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:05 am Posts: 1868 Location: 1503
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I said the japanese bombings were a tragedy, I was mentioning it as one of the most amazing examples of people to come together and rebuild.
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Roger
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Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 4909
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Collin Shots wrote: I said the japanese bombings were a tragedy, I was mentioning it as one of the most amazing examples of people to come together and rebuild. It is, but regarding this: Quote: we just dropped those and got out without some rebuilding plans or exit strategy See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_JapanSome relevant points: - The Allied forces occupied Japan for seven years. - In the initial phases they established a system of food distribution that cost nearly one million dollars a day. - Major changes to Japan's existing system of government were imposed by MacArthur.
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