
Re: Whats a decent/fair price on a Kaws 5 year later comp.
KJB wrote:
Krudler wrote:
I'm fairly certain its a job application for Nick Toons.
If its not then perhaps he's managed to swindle the art world ... maybe its fine art now.
In the past Warhol would anoint up and coming artists, since his death its harder to know if dreck like this gets the fine art stamp of approval.
KAWS does seem to be heavily influenced by Lichtenstein and Warhol on these canvases (but in a derivitive way with no irony, statement, or humour).
I don't know if I agree that Lichtenstein and Warhol were being ironic - they both had a certain reverence for their subjects that would seem to preclude irony. I do agree about the statement and humor; in terms of both its presence in their work and the absence of either in Kaws'.
Well art and irony are both subjective. To me when I look at Warhol's better work (well reproductions actually) I see irony.
Marilyn Monroe is an icon, Warhol's images of her are iconic as well. The Brillo box, the Campbell's soup can, his death and destruction prints. He had a long career, lots of his work was crap some was great.
Here's a brief quote on Warhol from someone with a far better knowledge of art history than I have:
Think about Andy Warhol and you think about the arch master of irony, coolly satirising the capitalist mass production process, sharing nothing of himself but his own detachment.
Mark Fisher
The Guardian
Anyway certainly don't want to start a fight about irony in pop art but had to stick up for Warhol on the irony issue. Similar things have been written about Lichtenstein's sense of irony by respected art critics.
I didn't notice the Haring influence at all until until Cornbluth brought him up.
To me the repetition and almost complete lifting of others work then adding X eyes or whatever seems extremely derivative of the pop masters. I could be completely wrong though and have np admitting it.