"Mori-san"

If we would only use esperanto, this would not be a problem!

this is confusing.. because TOEFL = Test of English as a Foreign Language

& yeah, I hate it when people use acronyms and expect you to know what they are. especially obscure ones like EFL

And none of that as well.

How many threads about poor spelling and grammar do we have already?

Probably 6 or 7 and counting.

It's called 'English' for a reason . . . you've all butchered it beyond belief already!

yes...i agree

When we were little, my grandparents would address the kids as "[first name]-san." This was probably an affectionate use of the suffix- and inappropriate in this case- but it never seemed categorically wrong to me.

no...but it's annoying and as you said, inappropriate.

Just look at Internet English as super-informal style of English, where spelling doesn't matter, and maybe it won't bother you so much. If people start overly worrying about their spelling /puncuation then they are going to post less. I'd rather see the board fall into illiteracy than disuse.


But weren't you refering top him as Katsura-san in your posts? I realise that you have met him, but for people who haven't wouldn't using his family name + San be more correct?

Or is it better to say Mori/ Mr Mori, as this is an English language board?

That's also how I called him when I was in Japan.
"Katsura-san....please sign my sketchbook."

Dean is referring to the first name + San as annoying to him.
But yes, internet English is super-informal. As long as the point gets across, it's fine with me. At least no one brings on the leet speak.

But Mori is the family name.

Wait.. what? Actually that does make sense, now that I think about it. Mori is always written in kanji, whereas Katsura is in hiragana.

I thought Mori was short for something else- like a pen name.

i'm screwed...

I'm officially confused.

The Japanese don't make things any easier by writing their names backwards.

eg. 小野洋子 = オノ.ヨーコ = Ono Yōko

Of course, we don't call her 'Ono San' in the west, just 'Yoko Ono'. I think that's the point Dean was making.

all the jocks in my school referred to me by my last name, all other classmates used my first, friends used my nickname, and one particular art teacher just referred to me as mr. milky.

now with all of this proper spelling talk, does that include the non-usage of capital letters?
i very rarely use capitals because i think they look stupid.

i also find it kind of amusing how some acronyms are understood by the general internet public (at least here) without an actual explanation, like referring to an OG toy as OG. hell, i don't even know what else to call it.

cheers, with a tall glass of Ice-T!

A dyslexic elf.

In high school, we had 2 Roberts and 1 Roberto in English class. Our teacher decided to give us all nicknames....Bob, Rob, and..well...Roberto. He asked a question one time and no one had the answer so he asks "Anyone??? How bout you, Rob?" All 3 of us looked at each other and we all looked back and him and Bob said "Which one of us are you talking to?" and he blew up.
Mr H: You! You! I was talking to you, Rob!!! (pointing to Bob)
Bob: But I go by Bob or Robert
Rob: and I go by Rob...and he's Roberto....
Mr H: Oh for fuck's sake....you're Rob, you're Bob, and he's Roberto
Bob: but I go by Bob or Robert and he's Rob
Rob:...or Robert...and he's Roberto
Mr H: Fine!! You're Robert1 and you're Robert2
Rob:...and he's Roberto...

I just shrugged my shoulders and chuckled cause I knew I wasn't in trouble...I think the alcohol got to Mr H. that day. He even taught us how to bet on horses.

I LOLed.

EFL was a pun on ESL, didn't realise there was English as a Foreign Language. My bad.

Did my thread ger jacked by a discussion of formal titles? Seriously?

Your al idorts.

I never say "I never" 'cause I know I just might...

teh

fucking bugs the piss out of me...

Mutton is the main offender (but I'll let him of 'cause I love him) the rest of you better recognise