As for the whole safety thing. I'm sure that's where the "American Recipe" comes in, keeping it legal and everything for American standards while still trying to achieve the feel that we want. Film contains caustics, paints have xylene and nasty things like that. Californians know that cause they are always pointing out cancerous items in my paints!! Not much is "safe" but as long as things are done by regulation then it's cool. I think this is going to be fantastic and I'm sure they've looked into keeping things clean. I don't think anyone enjoys polluting. I didn't expect any negativity either. I'm very excited.

e-legal 'guerrilla' toys are the best!

p.s. general philosophy: I would rather buy the worst SB toy than the best KR toy.

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Thanks for the info, Scott! Sounds pretty awesome and looking forward to seeing what results you guys are able to achieve!

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i really like the lamb.

Well since you aksed'

I view the Chinese as humans who are victims of a massive state propaganda apparatus.


I can't judge Terrel's lamb b/c it was made by a skullbrainer which makes it auto-cool.

Scott is the cool mad chemist creating future vinyl for all artists to express their nightmares with. OK DAYDEREAMS TOO! Get sculpting, time's a wastin'

stealthtank, not sure what the America/China/Japan commentary has to do with anything but thanks for the information about the techniques being developed, it's interesting to me and I hope you do document the entire process.

No we don't. I think it's poetic.

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it has to do with the worst SB toy vs the best KR toy comment. Basically, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
rather than judge things on what is being done now, I'd rather wait to see the final pieces being made.

off-gassing helps add to said speculation. So, what are all these toys made of? (I ask this in all seriousness.)

hey. lofty goals have brought great things in the history of mankind. I'm not trying to shit on this, I'm just thinking that doing this in such a public manner could put a lot more pressure on the people involved while other considerations could suffer as a result.

and to answer an earlier question: my initial post was not meant in the purple vein...I am going to go back and turn it yellow for effect.

from a toy buyers view this sounds great. i know most vinyl companies have a preset order limit and usually you have to travel over seas to check test pulls and ok the final product. then with packaging and shipping costs overseas it gets real pricey. this transfers into big money to produce a toy which usually means a higher cost passed onto the buyers. if the company is in the US artists and companies can run the process through bullshark making it way easier to deal with the testing packaging and shipping. i also see a faster turn around on a release because theres no more 3-5 months of shipping on a boat. without any major issues i see bullshark as a way to lower costs for american artists or companies looking to produce a toy that upholds japanese standards. this is all hypothetical until their formulas and qc is completed but i see prices dropping for people if bullshark is the manufacturer. good luck bullshark.
dont kill our earth please

very cool, guys. thanks for the background/progress... i find it all very fascinating and i am very interested to see it unfold.

it should also be noted that it actually is possible for most industries to still exist in the US, and within current epa/safety/etc standards. most companies just aren't up to the task [or cost], and let's face it... it is a huge task. no one ever said reinventing the wheel was easy, but those who dare deserve a big pat on the back. way to go, bullshark!

also, if any of us were really that concerned about the impact of this hobby on the environment, from manufacturing to global shipping. you probably shouldn't support this hobby/industry to begin with.... just sayin'

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Why the hell is everyone's post edited in this thread?



Scott- don't get cancer and keep that mask on, as Bill Clinton reccomends, don't inhale.


Bullshark in 2011 !!!!!!!!!

Sux to be a new car dealer don't it?

After google'ing pthalates and off-gassing, I think it sucks to be everyone. Especially if you dont live in a house made of bamboo with no electronics, lotions, containers, carpeting, or any other luxuries. I might see if there are any nice caves up for sale right now. As far as what's in the toys, I think that should be the least of our worries unless you're huffing your cabinets. Also their factory will be soo much safer than a ton of places that make way more product. I work for a place that makes trade show booths and I get to enjoy MDF dust with formaldehyde in it, acrylic vapors, and paint and solvent fumes all day. Mmm..

Man I hate threads like this. Being a hypochondriac I instantly start looking at the toys and think "Wow that's killing me". Already think it's causing breathing problems and giving me ball cancer, and eventually will kill me and not allow my g/f ever to get pregnant (and or birth defects).

I've stopped caring since everything gives you cancer. Plus I live in a huge city, I'm snorting fumes all day.

Afraid that the kids will come out looking like this?

I think you really just have to remember that you can't escape it. Not to make things worse for you Lixx.. I'm the same way as you. Ever since I read on the back of a can of spraypaint "this product contains chemicals known by the state of California to cause cancer" (thanks CA) I had a different view on paint, but I wasn't about to stop painting. You just have to accept the fact that practically everything around you is doing the same thing as your toys, except you're not frequenting a board devoted to vinyl flooring, window frames, or bottles. Atleast we love the toys.

They just released a study that shows life contributes towards death.