^^Some serious jelly over here.

many products sold here
are powdered pigments.
I'll add them to paint transparent bought in factory paint for vinyl.
special effects!

http://www.teknofiniture.it/template.php?pag=12862&id_cat=1065&id_sotto_cat=2387

that stuff looks neat, but pricy... Monster Kolor FTW!

So I painted a clear Smogun last night with V-Color, all went well until I wanted to give the flat pink and orange a bit of clear coat to give it a shine. Once I sprayed the clear my clear vinyl got frosty. WTF did I do wrong? This is the first time I've ever actually painted on clear vinyl and did really expect this problem. So what do you guys use to clear coat your customs over VC.

Here's a pic

Do you have matte clear maybe?

Thanks for the help, that's probably the problem. I didn't know they had a matte clear but that makes sense. I had a list of what all the color numbers on the bottles meant but I lost the list a while back when my hard drive died so I have no way of checking if it's matte clear. Anyone still have the VC color numbers?

There can be a few reasons why that happened.

Do you paint in a colder moister area ?

Try this, keep a hair dryer near by, warm up the vinyl just a tad. Then spray, the immediately dry again. You can try this on the cloudy vinyl and it might fix that right away.

Or maybe you thinned it to much. Or possibly you may have gotten something in the cup like a lubricant ?

But the dryer may work. I have had this problem before.

Awesome, I'll give it a try. Any other clear coat that you guys recommend? I don't have much and will likely need more soon. Will MK clear work over VC?

I think it's safe to use any clear coat that is made for soft vinyl. The only difference is that some paints have different solvent points and this has the potential to cause an issue. V-Color has a high solvent point though so most any will go over it with out negative effect.
I would guess you used the mat clear as well. #23 is clear #24 is flat base.
the only other thing I can think of is if you used #23 but didn't thin it enough. If that is the case, you should still be able to clear coat it again and have it come out OK.

V-Color number list:

01 WHITE
02 BLACK
03 RED
04 BLUE
05 LEMON YELLOW
06 GREEN
07 BROWN
08 SILVER
09 GOLD
10 FLAT WHITE
11 FLAT BLACK
12 BRIGHT RED
13 SKYBLUE
14 FLESH A
15 FLESH B
16 IVORY
17 ORANGE YELLOW
18 EMERALD GREEN
19 LIGHT BROWN
20 LIGHT GRAY
21 MONSTER BLUE
22 MONSTER GREEN
23 CLEAR
24 FLAT BASE
25 RETARDER
26 CLEAR RED
27 CLEAR BLUE
28 CLEAR YELLOW
29 CLEAR ORANGE
30 CLEAR GEEN
31 SMOKE
32 FLUORESCENT RED
33 FLUORESCENT YELLOW
34 FLUORESCENT ORANGE
35 FLUORESCENT PINK
36 FLUORESCENT GREEN
37 FLUORESCENT PURPLE

You sir, are a saint.

Yeah it was 23 Clear so I must have thinned it too much, ooof!

In this instance, I think the "frosted" clear really works well with the colors you picked. Kind of a happy accident.

V-color clear is a little tricky but very nice when you get it to work for you.

Still, most of the time I prefer to use Future:



It's cheap, easy to find, dries quick, and isn't sticky. Sprays through the airbrush no-problem. It's an acrylic clear coat and modelers have been using it for years to finish their pieces. It's self-levelling so if you sometimes take a brush to your customs (which I do) it's great for filling/concealing any brush strokes.

HOLY F'N A that Pledge trick is AMAZING!!!!

Check the before and after shot, and that's just one coat of the Pledge. Took away all of the frosted look.

THANKS DUSTIN!!!!


before


after

BA-ZING! damn... that's an amazing little trick there! just... wow.
(and it looks great, by the way!)

and it grew pipe cleaners!!

Told you Future was awesome!

Just don't get ANY windex on it or it's a wrap.

And I'm sure it's lemony fresh.

It's the logical next step, scratch and sniff !

Just not a good idea for the uchikun

for future reference, MK clear works great over vcolor, and on clear vinyl. Also Krylon Crystal works great too... Only can clear I used back in the day, and it never got tacky or cloudy... I was never a fan of the v-color thinner

I didn't see anything in the thread but I might have overlooked so...

I finally ran out of VC thinner and still have 9 bottles to mix, so do I use plain paint thinner or lacquer thinner or ...?

I've used laquer thinner with v-color with no problems!

Awesome thanks! Guess I know what I'm doing the rest of the night.

I just want to chime in here with a caveat about MK clear coat- D-Lux is right it'll work over V-color, but MK clear kinda becomes a hard shell if you will after it cures. And once you spray MK clear, if you want to strip the figure again (like you're not happy with the colors or notice a flaw or something) acetone becomes ineffective. And I've encountered MK clear (and the underlying colors) actually separating from the base vinyl at spots... usually around joints and points of friction; where the aforementioned shell peels away like a skin. And finally, It actually changes the feel of the vinyl when its done... makes it hard and takes away (for me anyway) an important part of the vinyl toy experience. For some, these things are not a problem, for me it's the reason I choose not to use Monster Kolor when I spray.

If you do use monster kolor, disassemble the toy this will reduce the chances of joints locking up. The clear does get very hard tho. Since it's a 2 part it's almost like a spray resin. But from experience it does chip or rub off easier than v-color when clear is not used.