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That's interesting... Assuming he didn't leave a will leaving his money and assets to someone else supporting AQ or someone (not sure who) freezing his accounts. As for his connections, well, did they support him or the cause? I hope you're right though.

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Where is Hitler buried? It's no accident that nobody knows. The rest of the Nazis that were executed were cremated and their ashes scattered.


They do know, in fact they took the skull and confirmed it was his by matching it to his dental records. I know it's true, I saw it on the History Channel :wink:

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They did keep some skull fragments and part of the jaw but the rest of his body was buried.

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but the rest of his body was buried.


I prefer the term: thrown overboard!

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Where is Hitler buried? It's no accident that nobody knows. The rest of the Nazis that were executed were cremated and their ashes scattered.

They do know, in fact they took the skull and confirmed it was his by matching it to his dental records. I know it's true, I saw it on the History Channel :wink:

Hitler was buried, but then fear of the spot becoming a rallying point for loons forced the following:
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The remains of Hitler and Braun were repeatedly buried and exhumed by SMERSH during the unit's relocation from Berlin to a new facility in Magdeburg where they, along with the charred remains of propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels and those of his wife Magda Goebbels and their six children, were buried in an unmarked grave beneath a paved section of the front courtyard. The location was kept highly secret.

In 1970, the SMERSH facility, by then controlled by the KGB, was scheduled to be handed over to the East German government. Fearing that a known Hitler burial site might become a Neo-Nazi shrine, KGB director Yuri Andropov authorised an operation to destroy the remains that had been buried in Magdeberg on 21 February 1946. A Soviet KGB team was given detailed burial charts. On 4 April 1970 they secretly exhumed five wooden boxes containing the remains of "10 or 11 bodies...in an advanced state of decay". The remains were thoroughly burned and crushed, after which the ashes were thrown into the Biederitz river, a tributary of the nearby Elbe.

So basically, Osama and Adolf are fish food.

Also, figure-head, figure-schmed, this motherfucker should have been the target since day one. Instead, Iraq got mixed in. There will always be radicals in the world, but don’t ignore the popular/democratic revolutions in the Middle East: People there are not standing for crap anymore. The lack of popular support for reforms is what helped protect assholes like this. It’s not like a on and off switch; it's a change in attitude. And having Obama lead this and order this to happen—and assassination on the soil of a non-enemy country—is massive. No wonder the guy was at the head of the class at Harvard Law School! He really does know how to work his role as a leader and how to play things for the long haul. The U.S. needs a guy like this. And the fact that Trump got his egotistical head in the middle of this thanks to the “birther” nonsense is icing on the cake. Suck it tea party folks and Republicans because you have nobody who can compete in 2012 now. He got Osama. He needs 4 more years. He’ll get that. And I have faith that in that second term is when the “change” will really kick in gear.


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Evidently, they might be releasing photos of bin Laden's corpse soon. I guess that means the one that's been floating around is 'shopped, maybe. Who knows.

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Evidently, they might be releasing photos of bin Laden's corpse soon. I guess that means the one that's been floating around is 'shopped, maybe. Who knows.

The one floating around I saw IS shopped, there's side by side examples of it and the actual pic of him alive they used as a source.

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How about Obama handing back that 2009 nobel?

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How about Obama handing back that 2009 nobel?

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How about Obama handing back that 2009 nobel?

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Why not?

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clearly, none of this was priority to the POTUS.

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How about Obama handing back that 2009 nobel?

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Why not?

Because if you give the Nobel Peace Prize to the Commander in Chief of a military who's stated mission over the past decade has been tracking down and killing OBL, you shouldn't expect him to give it back when they succeed.

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How about Obama handing back that 2009 nobel?

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Why not?

Because if you give the Nobel Peace Prize to the Commander in Chief of a military who's stated mission over the past decade has been tracking down and killing OBL, you shouldn't expect him to give it back when they succeed.

Well, this and the recent US-Nato bombings in Libya make me at least think of it. I wouldn't expect him to give it back but that's just because he's a politician. Besides the fact that OBL has been killed (and not arrested, trialed and condemned), I still find the way this announcement was dealt with unworthy of a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

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I really didn't get why he got the Nobel in the first place...

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but the rest of his body was buried.


I prefer the term: thrown overboard!





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I really didn't get why he got the Nobel in the first place...


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I kept thinking if the flag got in his face one more time that ho-dunk might accidentally shoot himself in the head. Now THAT would have been funny.


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Okay, so Bin Laden is 'officially' dead and buried at sea. They say they have taken pictures and DNA evidence from the body they dumped and, at this point, I am willing to believe that he is actually dead and gone. Unfortunately, I don't believe that this means terrorism will end and that we'll see any large-scale reduction of troops in Pakistan and Afghanistan anytime soon, withdrawal timeline or not. If this is what thousands of American soldiers have died to achieve, was it really worth that price? It is the closing of a chapter, for certain; however, it brings back no loved ones or the return of billions (trillions?) of dollars spent in the effort to capture Bin Laden and quell terrorist activity.

Aside from other atrocities going on elsewhere in the world, we have natural disasters killing people across the globe, food and gas prices skyrocketing, and a general air of pervasive stupidity prevalent here in the US, which makes wrapping oneself up in a flag (exemplifying piss-poor flag etiquette, btw) and cheering about the death of one man, notorious though that man may have been, seem really, really ridiculous.

I'll admit that I suffer from a 'we're all fucked' attitude, but there has got to be something better to get excited about than the death of a person, no matter how shitty that person may have been.


Well put scottygee!

I think that Lawrence Wright ( author of The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road of 9/11) made a really interesting suggestion to the CIA, prior to Usama Bin Laden’s death, when he was asked how they should deal with Bin Laden in the event he was captured. A suggestion that certainly wouldn’t have stopped terrorism but may have a least quelled the unfounded legacy Bin Laden will be leaving behind by becoming a martyr.

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“If you catch him, don't kill him because he'll become a martyr, which is what he seeks to be. But don't take him to America just yet.
First of all, take him to Kenya, where on August 6, 1998, he set off a bomb in front of an American embassy, killing 224 people and wounding, blinding 150 Africans. Let him sit in a courtroom in Nairobi and tell 150 blind Africans that he was just striking at a symbol of American power.
And then you could take him to Tanzania, where on the same day, he set off another bomb in front of another American embassy, killing 11 people, all of them Muslims. And bin Laden excused that because it was Friday, and good Muslims would be in the mosque.
I think that would be a wonderful venue to talk about what a good Muslim actually is. And then you could bring him to America and have him answer for the death of the 17 sailors on the USS Cole in October, 2000, and the 3,000 Americans who died on 9/11.
But you don't have to stop there. You could take him so many places. You know, Casablanca, Madrid, London, Bali. But just take him one last place. Take him home and try him under Sharia law, which is the only law that he and his followers would respect.
And if he's convicted, he would be taken to a square in downtown Riyadh, and the executioner is a big man with a long sword, and it's Saudi custom for the executioner to go out and ask the crowd, which is composed of the victims of the condemned man, to forgive him.
And if they couldn't do that, then the executioner would do his job, and bin Laden would be taken and buried in an unmarked Wahhabi graveyard. And I thought in that manner, you could begin to roll back some of his awful legacy.”
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You can listen to the entire interview here;
http://www.npr.org/2011/05/02/135917389 ... -in-coming

Also, this is certainly going to alter our relationship with Pakistan. They obviously used Bin Laden to cash-in on the billions in foreign aid we gave them for their “help” so they hid him in plain sight for as long as they could. Hopefully congress will begin to take a much needed closer look at all the questionable foreign aid we spend.

Yeah, I’ve felt like I’ve been in the “We’re all fucked!” category myself scottygee.
So much happening in the world and all the nonsense in our own backyard with big oil companies and Wall Street laughing all the way to the bank. All the while people, including; teachers, policeman, firefighters etc... all losing their jobs and homes.
What, it’s OK for Wall Street to want to be big capitalists when they’re making profits but when their very own schemes backfire, they want to be socialists?! Our government helps them yet they can’t take care of the rest and majority of citizens! Big companies get humongous tax breaks or avoid taxes by the KA-Billions by creating offshore accounts!

In liew of all this, I am becoming more optimistic, and here’s why; I’m seeing more and more folks being conscious about their dependency on oil. I know it’s because of current prices, but the buses I take everyday have become packed! Hopefully they’ll stay that way although people yaking on their cel phones is driving me just nuts! Like I really want to hear about someone’s canker sore or pregnant daughter moving to Alaska! I literally want to snatch their phones from their hands and smash them on the friggin bus floor!

The uprisings and changes in the middle east in which people are fighting to liberate themselves from monarchs and autocracies.

The importance of manufacturing and buying from here is becoming more prevalent, not to mention more folks/companies seriously considering the effects they have on the environment.

Then there’s the speed at which technology is moving and the affects and opportunities it’s having on independents and people from all over the world.

A lot of “ahem” folks interpret 2012 as being the year we all get our pink slips or the apocalyptic end of days, but without sounding all “New Age” like, I’m more in the camp of another theory; as the Mayans believed, its the end of earth’s cycle and a new one commences, one in which I want to believe, where humanity will be on a positive trajectory or come into a collective consciousness and understand that everything we do affects all of us and the planet. And that we have to change the way we live and do things...or we’ll be chucking rocks at each other from rafts and end up like Kevin Costner in “Waterworld!”

I look at 2013 as our renaissance and I think these next few years leading to it are going to be incredibly interesting, that’s what I’m excited about (along with the new red Ollie!).
My cheesy optimistic viewpoint as of today. ; )

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Ok, I'm convinced.

All this belly aching seals the deal, let's bring the fucker back to life. :roll:

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