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EBIII
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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:04 pm Posts: 905 Location: Chicago
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 Re: A Nag Pa I Root
Wonder how much they paid Shig for these, or if they even gave him anything. CCM came out like a bandit on this one. I've never been upset by all this nag shit, but this time around I really do feel like Shig got taken advantage of and that does upset me. I think he needs to take this project back into his hands and just do it the way he wants.
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wing_clipper
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Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:25 pm Posts: 2538 Location: illinois
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cut out the middleman and just flip it directly at the retail level. LAME!
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kroker
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:29 am Posts: 705 Location: LA
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wow so tara mcpherson nagx3 collabs? that's a little much yeah. when's the j-led coming out? I start the bidding @ 3k go!
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michael
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Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:10 pm Posts: 2193
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facebook justice? "Tara McPherson TONIGHT at Cotton Candy Machine- The Zombie Ice Baby NagNagNag release lottery is from 9-10pm!! (There's also an email lottery for ONE! Details in the blog!) Thanks! Cotton Candy Machine | Cotton Candy Machine Events www.thecottoncandymachine.comLike · · Share · 23 hours ago · 7 people like this. Tomás Ives OH! so cool! hope visit cotton candy machine next year!!!!!!!  22 hours ago · Like Michael McGowan Not that it really matters to you, but the whole Nag debacle makes me sad that I bought my wife, a coffee mug with your artwork on it. You treated a rare opportunity to work with an amazing Japanese artist, as a risk-free way to profit. Please note that this isn't jealousy writing, I'm legitimately saddened by the way you treated your privilege, and I think you owe the fans of Shigeru an apology. 9 hours ago · Like Michael McGowan Also in case you don't understand exactly what the exact issue is, you had originally posted that it would be sold for 200 in store, so people that entered didn't have enough money to pay (as referenced in the video) which isn't as bad, as auctioning off the last one, to squeeze as much money as possible from peoples wallets. On top of everything, saying that 30% of the sale would be given to charity, when you realized people weren't thrilled by the auction. Just say "I'm sorry we have to pay bills" at least that would be honorable."
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TheDrizzle
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Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:46 am Posts: 280
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I think Shig was just trying to get laid. I hope it worked.
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bunnyboy
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Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:16 am Posts: 1474 Location: germanymey
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^^ Highly ironic that a toy being "Made in Occupied Japan" gets retail-flipped by greedy American... err... well, cunts. Much respect to Mr. Cooper for being the only collab artist so far not partaking in this bullshit.
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phantomfauna
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Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:25 am Posts: 2212
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Hey!..You don't have to be sexist.
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bunnyboy
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Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:16 am Posts: 1474 Location: germanymey
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Didn't mean to. I'm not only referring to Tara herself.
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slipstar01
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Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:20 pm Posts: 2470 Location: Sparta, Michigan
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I told my wife about this whole thing, and she's really bummed out. Not because she didn't get it, but in her own words. "Tara McPherson appears to possibly be a bit heartless, only caring about profits. Screwing fans over in the process....<\3".
Shitty situation.
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leucotomy
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Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:05 pm Posts: 1338 Location: UK
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EBIII wrote: Wonder how much they paid Shig for these, or if they even gave him anything. CCM came out like a bandit on this one. I've never been upset by all this nag shit, but this time around I really do feel like Shig got taken advantage of and that does upset me. I think he needs to take this project back into his hands and just do it the way he wants. I think your completely right, he has been taken advantage of and its a shame because it tainted many people view of nags and Shig's work.
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CopASquatToys
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Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:51 am Posts: 1013 Location: Wilson, NC
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Guess it's been pulled down, wanted to see it outta curiosity.
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deadboy
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Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:31 am Posts: 1323
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From CCM blog Quote: . Another funny thing about that is it's really hard to Collect these Ugly Nag Toys because they are VERY RARE. More people want to Collect them than actually can. HAHAHA that is funny!Another sickening twist in the world of Nag
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evom
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Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 12:28 am Posts: 3581
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ASPrintingPress wrote: Guess it's been pulled down, wanted to see it outta curiosity. works for me.
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JoeMan
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Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:29 am Posts: 3818 Location: NY
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Wow, it left a bad taste in my mouth when CCM sold all the artist's cut of figures at their NYCC show and said is was because of miscommunication. This is even worse.
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slipstar01
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Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:20 pm Posts: 2470 Location: Sparta, Michigan
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bunnyboy wrote: Much respect to Mr. Cooper for being the only collab artist so far not partaking in this bullshit. You can't forget, it was all love when Paul Kaiju was painting' em pretty.
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LamourSupreme
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Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:19 pm Posts: 4010 Location: now
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Doubt what you believe to be truth and observe your feelings
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I Am The Fourth
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Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:53 pm Posts: 2552 Location: Anywhere
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That "reaction shot" was just humiliating, especially for the first handpicked winner and falling short on cash. Wow.
All around, could have been communicated better. That just looked awkward.
But on an opposite note, Shig did a great job on the paint, and Tara made some cool header art. Also, still got to thank Greg/L'amour for bringing this stateside.
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Paulkaiju
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Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:40 pm Posts: 3847 Location: SD
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slipstar01 wrote: You can't forget, it was all love when Paul Kaiju was painting' em pretty. Doesn't matter. I'm sure people will always find the time to slam me because i don't do pre orders or have that convenience to do so. 
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Greg Mishka
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Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:02 pm Posts: 811 Location: nyc
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I just feel like I need to comment since there is a lot of CCM/Tara McPherson bashing going on, and I just want to let you guys what I know...
-Sean came and talked to me about a month ago about strategizing the release of the Nagx3. I offered as much advice as I could. Listened to his plan, and help him strategize. What I did tell him that the most important things about the release were to 1) Let Shigeru know and be upfront about their intentions 2) haters are going to hate
-Without revealing the cost, I will let you know that $500 is not even FULL MARK UP of what they paid for the toy. I didn't know how much they were going to charge ( I of course had an idea, because of how much Mishka has charged in the past) but I will say that not only do I think the price is fair, Shigeru knew how much they were going to be selling it for.
-I have no idea how much Tara charges for illustration work. I do know she is a very busy and sought after international artist. Many of you may not realize this, but when you become a busy artist, your time is very valuable and you rarely have time to do free work. You have to choose your projects and collaborations carefully. I am not speaking for her at all, but I must imagine how it is. You guys can break down the math or do whatever you want to see how much she made, but I am pretty sure its less than what she would of charged to do the illustration out right for a project.
-I talked to Sean today about the auction/donation to charity. Not only does Shigeru know, he is happy that some money is going to charity and that Tara was able to receive some extra cash for the work that she put into it, seeing that he was not able to pay her any sort of fee.
I am not sure I have to go into the other stuff about that CCM is an art store gallery, this is an art project, they are in business to make money, etc. I just want to say that recently I have become friends with Sean and Tara, and I can say that they both genuinely care about their fans and their art. If you have ever been to the space and seen them in action then you know what I mean. I don't think anyone mentioned that they gave out 5 prints to people who didnt win the lottery.
Congrats to all who won, sorry to all who didnt, and looking forward to the next release of the Nagx3 in any form Shig chooses to release it. After all its HIS TOY, and HIS DECISION. Yes, really.
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pyroatheart1.3
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Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:05 am Posts: 882 Location: Monster Island nyc
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Very well said!!
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bbb
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Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:30 am Posts: 2120 Location: nyc
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Agreed. I didn't know most of this. And knowing is half the battle.
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Biff
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Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:19 pm Posts: 3442
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It seems that collecting Nags is like having an incredibly beautiful, but equally psychotic, girlfriend that demands you spend all your emotions, time & money on her. The sex is great, but at what point do you have to walk away?
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coma21
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Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:19 pm Posts: 3213 Location: Duke City New Mexico
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Biff wrote: It seems that collecting Nags is like having an incredibly beautiful, but equally psychotic, girlfriend that demands you spend all your emotions, time & money on her. The sex is great, but at what point do you have to walk away? Ok seriously this is the best comment ive heard in this thread... And the answer is when you meet a broken wing girl whos great in bed and just happy you make eye contact with her thats when you walk away from the other girl... Life bonus.
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hellopike
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Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 2753 Location: Philadelphia
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Greg Mishka wrote: -Without revealing the cost, I will let you know that $500 is not even FULL MARK UP of what they paid for the toy. I didn't know how much they were going to charge ( I of course had an idea, because of how much Mishka has charged in the past) but I will say that not only do I think the price is fair, Shigeru knew how much they were going to be selling it for.
^^ Wait, what does that mean, exactly? The bit I put in bold. I'm confused, I guess by the "full markup" part- are you trying to say they were sold at a loss? What do you mean by "full markup" ? If profit was made, then there was mark up, right? I'm just curious. I'm outside observer when it comes to these Nag toys, you just lost me with that sentence.
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I Am The Fourth
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Biff wrote: It seems that collecting Nags is like having an incredibly beautiful, but equally psychotic, girlfriend that demands you spend all your emotions, time & money on her. The sex is great, but at what point do you have to walk away? Best comparison of the year. 
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