Well Put Sir. Buff is a super nice dude and was a blast to chat with at NYCC.

Yeah Buff is a good dude, really down to earth and respects the Indy makers. I definitely plan on working with him. I think he got his start with KR related items, but wants to transition to character based toys not platform.

I am all for the indy toy scene adopting a commodity based standard using air jordans instead of conventional money or gold.

why support art and artists when you can perpetuate child slavery !

uh oh the gloves are on it seems. er off oops. on the wagon, off the wagon. I can never get that stuff right.

Air Jordans? they still make those?

Buff is a nice dood.

I'm all for this in all facets of life. It's my new slang, I'll discuss how many "Jordans" something cost me from now on. I don't even know what Jordan's go for, but from the source above $200 a pair? ("def not worth 3 pair of jordans though imo." for something $600)

How does it feel to be wrong?

Yes, can someone please send me a do/don't list of making toys. It seems like I have no clue of what I am doing.

Do: Remove monatary value from MISHKA site and replace with "Jordans" currency system.

Don't: Actually accept Jordans as payment. Paypal will probably confuse that with Jordanian dinar.

I would say that you should the complete opposite of whatever the hell it is that you are doing, because its obviously not working..

Great advice!

Seems it's not about the toys . . . as usual s'all about the $$$!

. . . and the hype . . .

. . . and blah, blah, blah . . .

Are you really ignorant enough to think running a small clothing company and making a few toys is highly profitable? People in it for the money usually do something that can actually make you rich.

Sphinctersaywhat?

Apparently they say "Sphinctersaywhat?". I should also point out that I do hope MISHKA is making good money but the assumption that these small brands are making people filthy rich is usually just that. If they are getting rich, then good for them.

EDIT: got my answer via PM

ur a fucking "douchey" moron if you think Mishka is some tiny mom n pop operation. 3 flagship stores in the 3 largest cities in the world is not something a tiny t-shirt brand owns + multiple accounts all across the globe. http://www.mishkanyc.com/stockists

You think HBO's definition of 'How To Make it in America" consists of a"small clothing company that makes a few toys"?
their website alone is worth $20k. http://www.freewebsitereport.org/www.mishkanyc.com

yeah and as we all know, small clothing companies that just make a few toys always get write ups in Forbes Magazine too..
"In 2003, Bortnik took around $20,000 of his own money to start a clothing company focused on making t-shirts. Mishka has since grown into a powerhouse brand known for a variety of streetwear–t-shirts, jackets and outerwear, hats, bags–with a website that clocks in 7,000 visits a day, and music has played a key role in the company’s rising profile." http://www.forbes.com/sites/leorgalil/2012/02/23/how-clothing-company-mishka-successfully-wove-music-into-its-brand/

I can give several examples of "small clothing companies that make a few toys" who had nowhere near 20k in start up capital let alone just their website worth that now.or
here's another site that says it's worth nearly 30k for just the website.http://www.siteinfotool.com/mishkanyc.com

Greg just comes here to sell you guys crap, he doesn't give a fuck about any of us, just our $$$. stop dick riding the man.

If you dont like em, dont buy em, nuff said. and thats nt directed any one in particular

But people shouldnt pretend like ANY brand or company is doing "us" a favor: This is america, this is consumerism, the point is to sell things and make $$$

In this game... I think you missed the point

This is very true and well put sir

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Hey i wasnt tryin to step on peoples toes. And when i said "brands and companies" i was not meaning to lump in indie producers (iwas thinking of mishka, secret base, and other biggies): i will be more careful with my wording. I know you cant live off toys, even big artists in the western vinyl toy game have 9-5s