The scirpt on the hats is probably something that the embroidery software includes in its preprogramed vector fonts. Most modern industrial embroidery programs have these included so you can go right to embroidering hats and such without an individual digitizing the design, although some basic clean up might be necessary. Different companies use different software but they all include vectored fonts, albeit with some variations.

This is pretty cool. An old New York City Transit design manual was uncovered recently, and a group of people (Niko Skourtis, Jesse Reed, and Hamish Smyth) put the entire collection available online in high-res. It is still amazing to me that all these graphics were designed by Massimo Vignelli.

Click through for the entire image set.

Just today I saw a food truck with Funstuff and was shocked people still use that font. Then I came home and found this thread. Looks like I'm not alone in this thought.

i'd love to take a road trip here:



http://typeface.kartemquin.com/

also, for sheer inspiration annually for the past decade, i've watched this short film about the firefly press:

http://elsadorfman.com/video/firefly.mov

from http://elsadorfman.com/firefly.html

i wish there was a higher resolution version somewhere.

thank you for sharing. "I'm only responsible for my watch" -those words resinate

^ they sure do. glad someone else connected with the short film.

Need help identifying the font for "Runaway Girls" on this

thanks for posting this! just ordered white and trans blue

Thanks a bunch Andy!

. . . . you know whats becoming really fucking tiresome?

Twats who send pdf artwork for output with open fonts in the file without converting them to outline.
It just adds unnecessary time to jobs . . . and also adds more chance that things will go wrong.
I dont have every font in the universe loaded on my Mac!

Also, twats that send pdf artwork for print with the colour space set to RGB.

Supplied artwork is becoming worse not better, surely it should be the other way round?

Interesting. I always assumed that InDesign or Illustrator embedded font information into the PDF. I've been outputting PDF's without outlined text for years now, and I've only had a couple vendors (out of the dozens that we've used over the years) ask me to outline all the text.

If I'm outputting X-1a PDF's with compatibility set to Acrobat 7, should I be outlining everything, even if the printers aren't asking for it? I definitely want to be providing printers with the absolute best files I can.

Side question - Is there a way to automatically outline all text during the PDF export in InDesign, rather than having to manually go through and convert everything to outlines every time you need to export a PDF?

^^ To be honest, i haven't used InDesign in years. I can do everything i need in illustrator so its very quick to just outline the fonts.

Its usually fine to send open fonts for output IF the pdf files are set up 100% correctly. The trouble is, i have to amend or correct pretty much every file i'm sent.
Also, all printers have their own way of outputting stuff so i nearly always have to open the pdf and amend it in some way . . . .

As soon as you open the pdf in illustrator all the open fonts raise their ugly heads. We have a package called Artpro which outlines fonts for you but it doesn't always work.
It just causes delays and hassle!

To be honest, receiving artwork in pdf format is a more recent thing and its a pain in the arse!
. . . . and dont get me started on Transparencies!

^ Oh wow, opening all PDF's in Illustrator would be SUCH a hassle, I can't even imagine! I had someone send me a PDF output from WORD the other day, and I wanted to commit murder when I tried to open it in Illustrator.

I am not any kind of design/graphic artist, but I was surprised too recently (in the last year) to learn than the PDFs did not embed the proper coding for the fonts either. Pissed actually, since I had been sending out resumes with them, which, of course, appeared 'fine' on my viewing the files on my computer where the fonts had been installed. This was one of the primary reasons I had converted everything to PDF (along with size and that I hate Word). Very unfortunate.

I was actually just reading up on outlining fonts because of this discussion, and there's a good article that actually argues against outlining fonts:

Outlining Fonts: Is It Necessary?




Looks like the comments on the article make some very valid points though, so I guess it's important to remember / keep in mind that this article was writen on an InDesign-specific site, and that it only pertains to InDesign.

But yeah, in your case Steven, good thing to remember is that Office products do nearly everything wrong... Especially when trying to create files that are intended to be used by other applications.

Yep, because most of those 'features' are shortcuts specific to the program.
Like a lot of the 'effects' in illustrator. Why use something that is not actually 'there' at all.
You are just asking for trouble and being lazy.

I respectfully suggest that the article is mostly bollocks
The person who wrote that is not living in the real world. Most artwork i receive is wrong in some way and i nearly always
have to work on them. As soon as you do that, you need the font. If you dont have it you are screwed.
I've never come across a pdf with embedded fonts that works in this way. I always need the font loaded on my Mac.

You also cannot assume that the files you are sending will be output by the most up-to-date software.
Most companies i've worked for are way-behind on their upgrades. Quite often they are using really old stuff.
Also a lot of rips will bomb-out over transparencies and undefined colours etc.

Keep your artwork as simple as possible and things will always go smoother at the repro end.

. . . and yeah, Word files can be a pain to convert.