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bryce_r
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 Re: Target Earth ^^ Agreed I think the issue is the timing of the releases. It's like here's a new hxs sculpt and then BOOM TE knockoff Here's a new longneck sculpt, then BOOM TE knockoff 
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Mike-OH!
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Re: Target Earth The the more I think about it the more I feel like its maybe not such a big deal.
I mean the craterman is just a 4th iteration of Ooze-it anyway and as Rich said if I'm fine with one ripoff I should be fine with them all.
It would have been fun to see TE put the Shinkansen in the moon's eye instead of the rocket though.
Well anyways I'm off to make a King Kong head with a banana in his eye.
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Rich
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Re: Target Earth bryce_r wrote: Rich wrote: Everyone is cool with it. Now he makes 1 head that is just following in the footsteps of everything else he's done and everyone gets upset.. Completely disagree. Everytime TE puts out a sculpt that's similar to another release people are always commenting. Remember the maza looking thing or the mecha gorilla from a few years ago? I pretty much have zero opinion on what TE does anymore but I don't this is the first time people have voiced their opinion about not liking a sculpt from them. How am I not surprised you disagree with me I'm not saying there has never been any complaints what so ever. I'm just saying I think it's funny this seems to be the last straw for people.
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kichigai
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Re: Target Earth  "Who killed Mr. Moonlight?"afaik this was comissioned as a collab sofvi explained on TE blog..
Yoda-san, Sato-san, Honda-san & Hirota-san and quite a few others
you may or may not have ever heard of are all the same generation
while its predictable for the cycle of jabs at TE to spire up when he
drops a sofvi that another maker has already adapted, keep in mind
how few are made; it can only be for love of monsters not fortune
besides that anyone can choose their own adventure. after all this
while i am never let down by TE or Longneck, both of their offerings
continue to inspire me & more silent era sofvi monsters are coming
imho the TE looks more like the version in the silent film, while the
Longneck is a majestic Moon Diety. both unique yet neither were
original. i would also love to see a mini Moonman from Hiddy & SBlets start a checklist of Target Earth dolls:(please repost with spelling/names) 1 Gebora 2 Baby Zagoran 3 Smogon 2 Go4 Bagun 5 Faceless Bull 6 Turkey Phantom 7 Ball Eyes Fishman #1 8 Ball Eyes Fishman #2 9 Ball Eyes Fishman #3 10 Kusogon11 Geboru 12 Robot Kong13 Pollution Monster #1 14 Pollution Monster #2 15 Pollution Monster #3 16 2 head Monster #1 17 2 head Monster #2 18 Gaiychan 19 Dokugarasu 20 Grotesque Monster 21 Haji Ghost 22 Craterman 23 Cosmic Fishman 24 Robot Invader 25 Gate Gaurd Karakk 26 Moon Knight Alpha27 Gamerudon 28 Dr. Who 29 ? 30 ?? 31 ??? 32 ???? 33 ?????the ones list on bold are also made by other sofvi makers
a very small margin in reality. on top of the TE stufs there
are many Marmit sculpts by Mr. Sato, he loves MONSTERS
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Re: Target Earth Rich wrote: Most if not all TE toys are rip offs of popular selling Japanese toys. Everyone is cool with it. Now he makes 1 head that is just following in the footsteps of everything else he's done and everyone gets upset.. Every thing else is cool, but don't touch the moon. Either it's ok, or it's not right ? In for a penny in for a pound. If you can accept all the other rip offs, just accept this. I've always saw TE as the poor mans version of what ever. It's never cheaply made, but none the less always seems to fall just a little flat of its rip off. This head is no different for me. I think this moon guy rip off is one of his better rips, for the right price I'd buy it. It will never compare to the LN version, but cool none the less. Yes, we know they are "ripping-off" other figures, that's old hat. When you say "everyone is cool with it?" do you mean the other manufacturers in Japan? If so, can you explain further? We've discussed the "rip-offs" plenty on the board and not just with T.E. but what I'm more interested in hearing/reading are the thoughts from the manufacturers in Japan towards T.E. regarding his appropriation of the figures they produce. Is this the norm in Japan? Is it a cultural thing? Does T.E. license the right to use these designs? etc… EDIT: @ kichigai; Thanks for the insight regarding the Moon Man John! I'll have to get on the T.E. blog, that sounds like an interesting read!
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Re: Target Earth I think this is even more blatant that usual because it's the whole idea of putting the head from Voyage dans la Lune onto an Ooze-it body, which is a DIRECT rip-off. He could have made the moon head stand-alone, or put it on another body, and people would still like it, but he used the exact same concept as Longneck, and only a few months later too.
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Rich
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Re: Target Earth onibaba5 wrote: Rich wrote: Most if not all TE toys are rip offs of popular selling Japanese toys. Everyone is cool with it. Now he makes 1 head that is just following in the footsteps of everything else he's done and everyone gets upset.. Every thing else is cool, but don't touch the moon. Either it's ok, or it's not right ? In for a penny in for a pound. If you can accept all the other rip offs, just accept this. I've always saw TE as the poor mans version of what ever. It's never cheaply made, but none the less always seems to fall just a little flat of its rip off. This head is no different for me. I think this moon guy rip off is one of his better rips, for the right price I'd buy it. It will never compare to the LN version, but cool none the less. Yes, we know they are "ripping-off" other figures, that's old hat. When you say "everyone is cool with it?" do you mean the other manufacturers in Japan? If so, can you explain further? We've discussed the "rip-offs" plenty on the board and not just with T.E. but what I'm more interested in hearing/reading are the thoughts from the manufacturers in Japan towards T.E. regarding his appropriation of the figures they produce. Is this the norm in Japan? Is it a cultural thing? Does T.E. license the right to use these designs? etc… EDIT: @ kichigai; Thanks for the insight regarding the Moon Man John! I'll have to get on the T.E. blog, that sounds like an interesting read! Guys I'm just talking, it's just my opinion on TE. In the grand scheme of things my opinion is meaningless. Much like all opinions. When I said everyone I was just speaking in general collecting. I don't have peoples names or makers or have any clue what Japanese makers really think.
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kichigai
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Re: Target Earth "Stupid Yellow Monkey"
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Mike-OH!
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Re: Target Earth Another factor to weigh in is if the other makers loose any business when TE makes the same figure that someone else already made. I dont know but i wouldn't think that that's the case.
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phantomfauna
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Re: Target Earth Without going into the whole thing and just focusing on the sculpt...I like it as much or even more than the Longneck version. The proportions just work really well for me.
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Re: Target Earth kichigai wrote: "Stupid Yellow Monkey" Is that you?
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Re: Target Earth Quote: Rich
Guys I'm just talking, it's just my opinion on TE. In the grand scheme of things my opinion is meaningless. Much like all opinions.
When I said everyone I was just speaking in general collecting. I don't have peoples names or makers or have any clue what Japanese makers really think. Hey everyone's entitled to an opinion, that's the point of this board! ; ) And, I value yours Rich, especially since you're in the the thick of it producing toys in Japan. I was more curious of the sentiment makers in Japan might have regarding T.E. so I thought you were alluding to that instead of generalizing here. John's provided some info so that's fed my curios appetite for today. ; )
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Re: Target Earth Mike-OH! wrote: Well anyways I'm off to make a King Kong head with a banana in his eye. Now that's GREAT!
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Re: Target Earth So it's called "Moon Knight Alpha"? Ha, that's pretty cheeky.
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Re: Target Earth Preorder sometime soon for shipping sometime in 2015.
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topher
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Re: Target Earth So, it would be interesting if TE ripped an American artist's figure, has that ever happened? What if they made an "Ollie" or a "Pollen Kaiser"? 
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Rich
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Re: Target Earth topher wrote: So, it would be interesting if TE ripped an American artist's figure, has that ever happened? What if they made an "Ollie" or a "Pollen Kaiser"? A TE Boss C. 
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Re: Target Earth topher wrote: So, it would be interesting if TE ripped an American artist's figure, has that ever happened? What if they made an "Ollie" or a "Pollen Kaiser"? I would totally be into this... Although, lawsuits are an American tradition as well
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Re: Target Earth kichigai wrote: "Stupid Yellow Monkey" Interesting..so the "stupid yellow monkey" sculpted the head and asked TE to make it...am I reading this right? Who is this yellow monkey?
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Odibex
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Re: Target Earth  My first Target Earth piece. I'm mighty pleased with it!
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Mike-OH!
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Re: Target Earth A Maza from another mother!
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Re: Target Earth topher wrote: So, it would be interesting if TE ripped an American artist's figure, has that ever happened? What if they made an "Ollie" or a "Pollen Kaiser"? Honestly. I would be flattered.... and as long as I got a free one.
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Re: Target Earth Mike-OH! wrote: A Maza from another mother! Yah, zis iss mah Maza from another maza.
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Odibex
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Re: Target Earth Excuse my ignorance, but who or what is Maza?
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Re: Target Earth Odibex wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but who or what is Maza? 
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