I think a new section would be great, just as long as it falls underneath the "General Interests" section. I don't know about anybody else but my daily visit to SB always starts with hitting the General Interests link to see what new across all of the forums.

Who said it was a joke?

I vote for

Yeah, I'm tired of those UK fight figures and pushead toys corrupting the purity of Japanese toys.

American Idols is a pretty cheeseball name in the first place so any change would be an improvement.

Glad to hear it! . . . the majority of Skulldrain fall well outside target market!

This was my thinking. Even though I know the "Great Pretenders" suggestion was meant sarcastically. Some may take it to be seriously degrading to some truly talented artists who have more than made their place among the best.

The Outsiders sounded good, just for the literal meaning. The toys that would be featured in this section would be created and conceived outside the Japanese Vinyl homeland. Created by Outsiders and sent to receive a baptism in pure Japanese vinyl.
(Cool movie too)

I like the idea of renaming the thread but "The Outsiders" is just as cheesy as "American Idols". Sounds very poserish.

"The Fuckups" was my second choice

Here's the original thread when the name changed I think:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39563&hilit=+american+idols+

I've come up with a solution for the name change:

"These aren't the toys you're looking for"

Blatant Obi One reference I know, but I couldn't help it. I don't collect this stuff so I have no dog in this race, carry on....

Amerifubi lol
I agree Outsiders

It was a loving jape - more intended to be worn as an ironic badge than to be seen as an insecurity-bolstering dig.

Although I like your interpretation, I'm inclined to agree with Bryce's assessment four messages up.

Some may take it to be seriously degrading to some truly talented artists.

I'd forgotten I'd posted that . . . . still as relevant today as it was then!

How about

"Not Japan toys" ?
"The Othersiders"
"Atlantis"
"Xenofubi"
"Designed Globally, Poured Locally"

"Japan... NOT!"

Made In Japan, imagined somewhere else.

While you're rearranging, do Micromen really need their own subforum? It's totally dead anyhow.

You could set up a second poll if it's been decided the name will change...

i actually think this makes the most sense. Pretty clear and concise

Licensed toys (goji, kamen rider,denboku, butanohana, )
Artist toys and bootlegs (gargamel, rxh, nagnagnag/hxs/paulkaiju/secretoy/mvh/ etc)
Vintage Vinyl
Other shit (madball/horror etc)

Also, it'd be refreshing to see new mods. When I joined they were really relevant and present. Ed, Joe, Kirkland etc. I mean Chad Hensley on Japan Toys? Does he EVER post there? Great writer/collector/seller/human being but does he even visit that forum? Coma21? He basically cheer leads and LOVES every toy. When you look at the main screen you have an SSSS mod/Japan Toys mod/Mutons Minute Mod. I understand that the board has grown in members but let's mix it up.

James you are great but I would love to see MODs who don't just regulate or want changes but who have a lot of knowledge. It should be assigned by section and then someone to monitor the B/S/T.

It's outdated. Give someone MOD status for a year and switch it up. It'd be great to balance kindness with sarcasm. I'd love to see Lixx/Chris and Andy as MODs for a year as well as Akuma6. Different perspectives are a good thing.
My two cents.

I personally think it's time to start spreading out feelers and making an effort to invite like-minded individuals to the board... Not sure if it's just because it's summer or not, but it seems like posts are less frequent than when I first joined. ( and that wasn't even too long ago )

But I agree, we need to either change American Idols into a more generalized section for everywhere else in the world, or make separate sections for Americans/EverywhereElse. And a rename is definitely in order, because just the phrase "American Idol" makes me want to throat punch Simon Cowell and the other washed-out celebrities on that show.

Depends who's mind they are likened to!

Not gonna lie the outsiders does have a good ring to it...

Precisely. The last thing we need is to make this place a KR offshoot. There have been spurts of people joining the board lately, and sometimes these 'waves' are all coming here for one thing, unfortunately.

I can see Bryce's point for some general updating to the board. While some of the original mods are still active, I am not sure if they are 'active mods.' Outside of James, and Flynn occasionally throwing down Mew-Mew when things get out of hand, I haven't seen many occasions of the mods interjecting (not to say that they/you are not working diligently behind the scenes as well).

If there is indeed an "overhaul" (Brian's word) coming, I would like to suggest a Facebook-like "like" button for posts (if feasible at all). I know some people would hate it like they hate FB in general but my rationale is this:

-I enjoy a lot of the pictures / news posted here.
-I hate posts that simply say "wow" "cool" etc.
-I still feel compelled to post trite comments like that as well because I want people to know their pics/news are appreciated.

Anyway, I don't know if this something that would be easily implemented, but I think it would be neat.

You've been here all of 3 months. When it comes to topics like this, i suggest an age-old SB survival method, listen more, post less.