jerry kids "is this my world",,,,great lp........ were they considered sXe?? i got looking through my old vinyl after posting yesterday & couldn't remember if they were sXe...no obvious X's on hands on the cover or insert....
Although I love converge's "petitioning.." album. hardcore? really? although I'm strongly against hardcore and metal mixing(thrash excluded). I'm a total hypocrite for the following reasons: 1.I love cleveland hardcore. Integ,ringworm 2. Damnation AD will always be amazing. 3. I love the cro-mags. I'm sure there are more but I'll leave it at that. PS- KJB I put "think for me" on almost every hardcore mix I make. .
wow the freeze totally forgot about them and who ever said deadguy just got the work ethic 7" off ebay latly been listening to a alot of terror
leave me alont on my hardcore like im not as old as most of who nor old hardcore was not my thing punk yes and yes im from mass so blood for blood totaly does for me
Blow the ladder... every ladies favorite song or So common, so cheap by blood for blood... chicks love that shit my favorites old: jerry's kids new: cursed, swarm, ruination, left for dead... anything with chris... the kid spits venom!
Actually can't front too hard, because Youth Brigade turned into The Brigade when they got they're cheesy 80's synths on... Bad Religeon also butchered the piano on Into The Unknown which is now apparently critically acclaimed but everyone hated it at the time.
I don't know if they are the best ever but I sure did love me some old school snapcase! onekingdown and shai hulud would be high on the list as well... as far as newer bands go BANE has been a favorite of mine for sometime now. I agree with HMS on ExC - Best Straight Edge/Vegan band! one of my alltime favorite hardcore albums - poisonthewell - Opposite of December
Jello Biafra and the Dead Kenedys. Bobby Balingit and The Wuds. Dominic Gamboa and the Betrayed. Private Stock. George Imbecile and the Idiots. Dead Ends.
Canada made hardcore better. Union of Uranus, aka Uranus (ottawa) - You can either blame them or thank them for bringing more of a thick and heavy metal-tinge to hardcore*. Either way, you can still hear their influence. Orchid claimed in several interviews that they were nothing more than a Uranus tribute band. Shotmaker (ottawa) - Time changes, amazing rhythms and melodies. I'd give my left ear to have seen these guys. Influenced the whole heartattack scene. The Swarm (Toronto) - Sludgy and fast; allegedly throwing firecrackers at the audience during shows. From the Swarm came Cursed; yet another amazing band. Chokehold (toronto) - Controversial vegan pro-choice straight-edge. Also had the metal in them. Malfaction (winnipeg) - First grind/metalcore band I ever saw. Swallowing Shit (winnipeg) - brutal grind attack. Had Christian groups protesting at their shows. Propagandhi (winnipeg) - can't say I love these guys, but they continue to influence bands around the world. *not chugs, blame that on someone else.
With the band unheard I thought Crucifix and Metallica were the ones who brung the metal to punk and the punk to metal. Are you talking about a different genre of hardcore and metal? Not even being a snarky old dude just curious.
Oh, you snarky old dudes.... I'm not talking hardcore in the DRI, or COC-era sense; I'm taking about the time of hardcore from around Youth of Today and on. Prior to bands like Uranus, Earth Crisis, etc, hardcore (IMO) was usually faster, more energetic stuff. These bands slowed the music down a little, added some heavy to it. I agree that metallica did pull certain punk/thrash influences into metal, but i think they were drinking from a different well than the hardcore i'm talking about. You raise a great point though. Everyone has a very different idea of what hardcore is. You look at the bands mentioned in this thread and inevitably, any person is going to question whether or not that band is 'hardcore.' The definition of hardcore is pretty fucking loose but generally is defined in an era in one's own musical development and growth where they've cut the bonds of "i'm into punk, yay?" and moved into a music that is a bit heavier or intense and seems more substantive to them.
