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devilboy
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Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:44 pm Posts: 4644 Location: HELL
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i like it but not enough to drop $800 on it (even if i did live in cali). maybe companies will start doing more standard releases with cool "fills" soon on clear stuff. one can only hope.
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Sat May 26, 2007 5:27 pm |
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Darky
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Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:49 am Posts: 1837 Location: Australia
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800 for this is ridiculous
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Sat May 26, 2007 5:35 pm |
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Vombie
Vintage
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:43 pm Posts: 7090 Location: Oregon
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ditto! That dragamel went from "wow" to "why?" Don't get me wrong, I think Tim Biskup and Gargamel are AWESOME, but when ugly prices are slapped on this stuff, it kind of takes the fun out of it. Is the money going to go yo charity or something?
We're just talkin about a different colorway for this thing! crazzzeee.
For $800, I want a clear, clear with GID center, GID painted, Solid painted, and flocked all twice as big and made to MY specifications with a 20% discount.
IMHO 
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Sat May 26, 2007 6:00 pm |
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Frank Kozik
Mini Boss
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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Art
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Sat May 26, 2007 6:10 pm |
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redhanded
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Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:16 pm Posts: 2135
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I love Tims stuff, but for 'art' at that price it better make breakfast the next morning and void the 'no kisses on the mouth' rule
It was clearly made though for particular people in mind... like those who can drop 800 for a toy.
pretty though...
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Sat May 26, 2007 6:15 pm |
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rhinomilk
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Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:15 pm Posts: 7136 Location: Bay Area
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i'd seriously be tempted to buy the one with the arm chopped off if given the opportunity... so badass!
i think these were made to appeal to the people who are willing to pay $800+ for them on ebay
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Sat May 26, 2007 6:38 pm |
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Vombie
Vintage
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:43 pm Posts: 7090 Location: Oregon
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rhinomilk wrote: i'd seriously be tempted to buy the one with the arm chopped off if given the opportunity... so badass!  i think these were made to appeal to the people who are willing to pay $800+ for them on ebay
Haha, well I guess that leaves me out. the drag does ROCK nuts, but $800 in my pocket rocks my nuts harder. What would be interesting is to see how much higher they'll go for if anyone flips them. oh well...
I think my feelings would be hurt a little if I was a toy designer/artist and some guy runs up to buy one of my really exclusive works at some special event just to flip it the next day. It's like, "Why don't you let someone who WANTS one buy it at asking price?" I guess in this business I'd get used to it with the quickness...
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Sat May 26, 2007 7:18 pm |
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jocappy
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Joined: Sun May 07, 2006 10:52 pm Posts: 1963 Location: Battle Ground, Washington
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thank you lord for the 800.00 price tag. I cannot afford that for one item. But by far my favorite Gargamel, or Biskup item yet. Maybe one day.
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Sat May 26, 2007 8:06 pm |
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tavaro
S7 Royalty
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 pm Posts: 3165 Location: L.A.
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liquidsky wrote: Where are the other fifteen?
maybe they make an apperance on flopdoodle.com
I think its intersting flopdoodle made the guns and innards, not gargamel. (I like the TB on the gun handle)
each one is different, which is amazing, but I would have to rob an old woman in a motorized chair for her med money to afford this one.
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Sat May 26, 2007 8:48 pm |
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old,white&handsome
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Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:36 pm Posts: 157
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i bought one and i recently (about a month ago) purchased a large painting from my fine brutha!
go tim go!
frank says: "ART" - really pretty simple aint it?
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Sat May 26, 2007 10:16 pm |
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turtlegod
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Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:00 pm Posts: 651 Location: L.A.
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Just got back from the show. The new paintings kill. Even after seeing the web preview I was surprised and impressed by all the pieces. The massive 30ft(?) mega-WarDragon is awesome -- actual kaiju size!! And the clear/stuffed standard WarDragons (@ $650) are rad. That's a lot of money for a toy but after seeing it, I'd say it's worth it (if it's within your budget). btw, it weighs like 2lbs.
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Sat May 26, 2007 10:22 pm |
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decypher
Comment King
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:34 pm Posts: 1150 Location: Vancouver, BC
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If it was maybe twice as big as the regular fullsize than this would be insane and more justifiable.
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Sat May 26, 2007 11:10 pm |
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michael
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Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:10 pm Posts: 2193
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turtlegod wrote: Just got back from the show. The new paintings kill. Even after seeing the web preview I was surprised and impressed by all the pieces. The massive 30ft(?) mega-WarDragon is awesome -- actual kaiju size!! And the clear/stuffed standard WarDragons (@ $650) are rad. That's a lot of money for a toy but after seeing it, I'd say it's worth it (if it's within your budget). btw, it weighs like 2lbs.
WHAT?!
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Sat May 26, 2007 11:14 pm |
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turtlegod
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Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:00 pm Posts: 651 Location: L.A.
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michael wrote: turtlegod wrote: The massive 30ft(?) mega-WarDragon is awesome -- actual kaiju size!!
Okay, maybe more like 15-20ft tall.
http://www.supertouchblog.com/2007/05/2 ... /#more-447
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Sun May 27, 2007 12:03 am |
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Anti Social Andy
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 am Posts: 8253 Location: The Grim North
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It's all 'bout the toys for me . . . but (IMO) Biskup's just upped his game . . . fuckin' killer canvases, insane scupture and the filled War Dragon is a guaranteed investment even at $650 . . . . takin' art/toy to a whole other level!
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Sun May 27, 2007 3:43 am |
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cesar
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Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:41 pm Posts: 841 Location: Brooknam
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650.00 dollahs for a "piece of art".....you best be getting some kisses too....
I myself liked to be kissed when I am getting fucked..... 
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Sun May 27, 2007 4:56 am |
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bannedindc
S7 Royalty
Joined: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:37 pm Posts: 3435 Location: super 7 country
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I think this is the personification of the idea of an "art toy". I know that term is heavily frowned upon(and usually I'd be one of them) in these parts but.. I think thats reasonable if you ask me... and Im dead broke. one could argue the time and effort of a painting vs something like this... but when it comes down to it.. I would take this over a 5000 painting any day..
I dont own any TB pieces other than a few circus punks(one custom) and the original helpers but If i had it in my means to get this i would have.
Success well deserved and hope Matt Groening didn't scoop thses all up to play with in his solid gold bathtub.
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Sun May 27, 2007 8:00 am |
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Frank Kozik
Mini Boss
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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That show absolutely rules.
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Sun May 27, 2007 8:34 am |
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BloodDrinker6969
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Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:13 pm Posts: 12024 Location: Chicago, Like R.Kelly
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Alot of those paintings were really awesome. As for the Dragon and it's price, I aint hating. I CAN'T afford it, but I mean, whatever. If I was him, and some people were willing to drop that kinda money on those, I wouldn't say no.
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Sun May 27, 2007 8:51 am |
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Robert DeCastro
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Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:31 am Posts: 2216 Location: In Limbo
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BloodDrinker6969 wrote: Alot of those paintings were really awesome. As for the Dragon and it's price, I aint hating. I CAN'T afford it, but I mean, whatever. If I was him, and some people were willing to drop that kinda money on those, I wouldn't say no.
Yep, Yep. If I had that kind of $$$ to drop sure. Art is in the eye of well you know. Well worth the cash for those who has a fat roll o dough
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Sun May 27, 2007 9:08 am |
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Dean
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Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 6232 Location: 415
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Yeah, but for $800 you can get, for example, a Walter Robinson original sculpture that will be more durable, possibly more likely to appreciate in value (if you think of collecting as an investment) and IMHO more compelling, fun, and interesting. To each their own though.
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Sun May 27, 2007 9:41 am |
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WeKillYou
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Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:37 pm Posts: 537 Location: Toronto/LA
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when you think that the kaws woodden bearbricks just sold out in a flash at $500 each, i dont se whats unreasonable about $650 for these. the bearbricks to start with are mass porduced platform toy that kaws has just dyed black and put X's in for eyes. the wardragons are all hand painted, all the stuff inside was hand made and stuffed, at $150 more, i wouldsay there is nothing wrong with that price. i personally cant afford it but if i did have that kind of money, id much rather spend it on the war dragon than a wodden bear
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Sun May 27, 2007 9:58 am |
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Krudler
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Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:40 am Posts: 1366
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The price on this doesn't seem excessive to me. Its aesthetically pleasing and I'd pull the trigger if this was offered.
Biskup keeps creating new and interesting work.
People are comparing price points here as to the War Dragon and Bearbrick which makes sense since they are both expensive (if one considers them toys).
Seems to me that KAWS is busy bronzing his past triumphs, churning out recycled Bearbricks at $500 a pop, and otherwise resting on his laurels.
I like both artists but am far more impressed with Tim these days.
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Sun May 27, 2007 11:19 am |
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Frank Kozik
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:53 pm Posts: 4668
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I'll agree Biskup is really expanding his range and his subject matter. All his 'toys' are top notch ( giant pollards for example). He is alsoi 100% 'fine artist' who just happens to like 'merch'.
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Sun May 27, 2007 12:08 pm |
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liquidsky
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Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:54 pm Posts: 7412 Location: Far From the Maddening Crowds
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Frank Kozik wrote: I'll agree Biskup is really expanding his range and his subject matter. All his 'toys' are top notch ( giant pollards for example). He is alsoi 100% 'fine artist' who just happens to like 'merch'.
I would disagree with the statement that "All his "toys" are top notch.
He had production problems with the large pink Ghonners (heads caved in on some) and some of the striped Callis had paint problems.
But he keeps chugging along and I guess he switched manufacturers cause his latest stuff has been, as you say, top notch.
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