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 what happened to eLOCO? 
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Post Re: what happened to eLOCO?
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so anyonne who sold him toys and was paid by his paypal is potentially not only out of luck on the toys they mailed but now has to orry about a chargeback too?.......shit


ouch...
This sounds like some pretty serious shit.
He said he was a lawyer at some point, but I still thought he was dropping tons more than any sensible person should/would barring a lottery win.

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Post Re: what happened to eLOCO?
I don't have any information about the eloco situation, but it's NEVER a good idea to ever let a buyer use a 3rd party pay for anything you're selling.

There are a number of ways having a 3rd party pay for things that can be turned into a scam.

- Scammer offers to buy an item from Seller.

- Scammer asks if it's okay if he can use Significant Other's PP account to pay for item.

- Seller says okay, and ships item to Scammer.

- Significant Other files a complaint that they never received item for which they paid.

- Seller has no proof that they sent item to Significant Other because item was shipped to Scammer. (because they probably have different shipping addresses)

- With no proof of shipping to Significant Other, PP can do a chargeback and refund the money back, so they end up with the item and the money.

- Seller has little to no recourse.

I got burned on a scam over some Oakley sunglasses on eBay, and that's how they burned me.


Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:52 pm
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if that's the case, i hope he was reported to the authorities.

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Post Re: what happened to eLOCO?
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I don't have any information about the eloco situation, but it's NEVER a good idea to ever let a buyer use a 3rd party pay for anything you're selling.

There are a number of ways having a 3rd party pay for things that can be turned into a scam.

- Scammer offers to buy an item from Seller.

- Scammer asks if it's okay if he can use Significant Other's PP account to pay for item.

- Seller says okay, and ships item to Scammer.

- Significant Other files a complaint that they never received item for which they paid.

- Seller has no proof that they sent item to Significant Other because item was shipped to Scammer. (because they probably have different shipping addresses)

- With no proof of shipping to Significant Other, PP can do a chargeback and refund the money back, so they end up with the item and the money.

- Seller has little to no recourse.

I got burned on a scam over some Oakley sunglasses on eBay, and that's how they burned me.


i got scammed like this on some records


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Post Re: what happened to eLOCO?
wow great - i guess i gotta start filling my paypal with some $ for when the chargeback pops up - to the FOR SALE board i go

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Locomoco wrote:
I don't have any information about the eloco situation, but it's NEVER a good idea to ever let a buyer use a 3rd party pay for anything you're selling.

There are a number of ways having a 3rd party pay for things that can be turned into a scam.

- Scammer offers to buy an item from Seller.

- Scammer asks if it's okay if he can use Significant Other's PP account to pay for item.

- Seller says okay, and ships item to Scammer.

- Significant Other files a complaint that they never received item for which they paid.

- Seller has no proof that they sent item to Significant Other because item was shipped to Scammer. (because they probably have different shipping addresses)

- With no proof of shipping to Significant Other, PP can do a chargeback and refund the money back, so they end up with the item and the money.

- Seller has little to no recourse.

I got burned on a scam over some Oakley sunglasses on eBay, and that's how they burned me.


i got scammed like this on some records

Hmm, this sounds like something going on with a current transaction. :wink:

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Post Re: what happened to eLOCO?
When accepting Paypal payments, I only ship to the address listed in the Paypal transaction and make sure it says "confirmed." That way I have some level of protection in case something goes wrong.

(Everybody go into your Paypal account right now and confirm that address if it isn't already!)


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agree'd the trouble is - the confirmed address for this dude happened to be not him from what i gather...

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Where did you gather that? Pogue's post?


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im gonna guess cause it isnt HIS name on the confirmed address so we can revert back to the lessons above of not taking $ from 3rd parties - man this all turned to shit and I hope the few of us effected dont get wrecked from it

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Post Re: what happened to eLOCO?
3rd party payment happen all the time -- it all depends on whether or not you know the person or if others do. In this case, the question comes up as to whether or not eLoco is willing to cover the charges that his girlfriend disputes. Unfortunately, since he has no voice here, he cannot post to stand up for his conduct or otherwise. I'm curious why he was not just banned from buying and selling? Seems harsh to cast him out of the board -- but then again, few people know all the facts and there may be good reasons to do so. Ultimately, it is S7's decision and their board.

Does anyone have his personal email to ask him about any of this?


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Ultimately, it is S7's decision and their board.


There it is.

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3rd party payment happen all the time -- it all depends on whether or not you know the person or if others do.

Which makes you question the meaning of the word "know" in that context. Once I took a third party payment from someone on Skullbrain because I "knew" this person as a fellow user there, but really had no other contact with them beyond PMs on the board.

After the sale, a couple of threads popped up about how others were having problems resolving transactions with that person. I considered myself lucky, but that was the last time I did it.


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It's less "I've got a secret!" and more, "the store knows the full story, and all the rest of us just know 2nd hand but want people to be wary". If you're that concerned, be proactive and e-mail the store instead of telling people to "shut the fuck up" in a thread.


Just for the record, I never told anyone to "shut the fuck up", any my only point was that the moethod of dribbling this information out sucked and created more drama than need be. A huge thank you to Pogue for setting the record straight.

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Just for the record, I never told anyone to "shut the fuck up"


No one ever said you did, but the person you quoted did.

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the only thing i didn't get is the 'he didn't pay for it bit'. either post the full story or shut the fuck up/delete the thread, none of this breadcrumb business.


Since the store was involved, I am gathering that perhaps some of his charges were disputed by the rightful owners of said CCs? I agree though. Either tell the whole story or don't mention it at all. The 'I've got a secret!' routine is tiresome.

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hillsy11 wrote:
It's less "I've got a secret!" and more, "the store knows the full story, and all the rest of us just know 2nd hand but want people to be wary". If you're that concerned, be proactive and e-mail the store instead of telling people to "shut the fuck up" in a thread.


Wise words.

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...There is pending legal action so the Super7 staff isn't going to say anything more about this situation...


S7 is under no responsibility to post things that could affect litigation and would be breathtakingly ignorant if it did.

Anyway do or say what you will but S7 seems to be handling this in a responsible fashion, they don't deserve to get shit about it.

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I think this thread has had it's time... :roll:

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