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Zaaier
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silver_lining_man wrote: maybe someone can help me find a song: i was listening to a TC radio station on my way home from work, and this really kick ass hip-hop track came on. All I can explain out of it is that the word 'hiccups' is in the chorus. i know that's kinda vague, but i'm guessing not to many newer songs have this word as the backbone of its hook. i checked the playlist on the website, but the only hip-hop songs around that time frame is Public Enemy's Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos and Heiruspecs' Get Up. I know both those songs, and they ain't it.... That could be Timbaland's 'Bounce' track off the 'Shock Value' record, it has Dr. Dre, Missy Elliott and Justin Timberlake droppin' feature verses. “Bounce, like your ass had the hiccups”
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silver_lining_man
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Zaaier wrote: silver_lining_man wrote: maybe someone can help me find a song: i was listening to a TC radio station on my way home from work, and this really kick ass hip-hop track came on. All I can explain out of it is that the word 'hiccups' is in the chorus. i know that's kinda vague, but i'm guessing not to many newer songs have this word as the backbone of its hook. i checked the playlist on the website, but the only hip-hop songs around that time frame is Public Enemy's Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos and Heiruspecs' Get Up. I know both those songs, and they ain't it.... That could be Timbaland's 'Bounce' track off the 'Shock Value' record, it has Dr. Dre, Missy Elliott and Justin Timberlake droppin' feature verses. “Bounce, like your ass had the hiccups” nope. that's not it. it actually sounded a lot like the Monster Island Czars, but, you know, higher quality recording....
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kroker
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anticon duckdown prince paul dj krush mr. dibbs old u.g.k. all of the 1st Wu solo efforts and 1st gen Wu-ling spin offs pre-gorillaz automator pre epitaph atmosphere company flow latyrx dj shadow New Orleans Bounce Rap
Southern rap did not kill hip hop, Jay-Z & the whole hat on top of your wave activator stocking cap killed hip hop... and everybody forgetting how to rap & instead just emulate Jay-Z and talking about what kind of cars they want to buy when they get big. Southern rap has been here for years killing it under the radar, U.G.K., The Geto Boys, 8 Ball & MJG, Rap-A-Lot, Suave House, Outkast, dungeon family, Cash Money was a cool label long before any one outside of Louisiana ever heard of them. All anyone outside of the south generally knows of southern rap is post-Master P & a lot of really, really good stuff came out before that.
...and yes black metal!!! whoever asked that a while back.
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Zaaier
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Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:23 pm Posts: 1732 Location: belgium
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kroker wrote: ...and yes black metal!!! whoever asked that a while back. Do make a different thread for this please.
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straightoutta..LOKASH
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I grew up around hip-hop, my dad owned a hip-hop record store across from roosevelt High in Fresno in the 90's, and threw parties and Djed out of the back of his store and in the local area( Kerman, etc). I was rappin' DJ Quicks " Tonight" at the age of 8 or 9 at shows. I grew up listening to Eazy E, Dj Quick, Too Short, Mac Dre, all the Old School ( Sugar hill, GMF &F5,etc) When I was in HS I really started to like "underground" hip-hop, like Hiero, and Del, Doc Octagon, Pharcyde, Wutang and all their incartnations, Prince Paul, etc. I really started to get into "trip -Hop" in the 90's like Dj Shadow, Spooks, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack. Now I rarely listen to any new Hip-hop, mostly metal and punk, a little folk and Post Hardcore for good measure. I did recently buy the Cool Kids and new Common album and love both of them.Kanye is allright, but I couldnt listen to a whole album of that computer voice.
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Deadbone
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straightoutta..LOKASH wrote: I grew up around hip-hop, my dad owned a hip-hop record store across from roosevelt High in Fresno in the 90's, and threw parties and Djed out of the back of his store and in the local area( Kerman, etc). I was rappin' DJ Quicks " Tonight" at the age of 8 or 9 at shows. I grew up listening to Eazy E, Dj Quick, Too Short, Mac Dre, all the Old School ( Sugar hill, GMF &F5,etc) When I was in HS I really started to like "underground" hip-hop, like Hiero, and Del, Doc Octagon, Pharcyde, Wutang and all their incartnations, Prince Paul, etc. I really started to get into "trip -Hop" in the 90's like Dj Shadow, Spooks, Portishead, Tricky, Massive Attack. Now I rarely listen to any new Hip-hop, mostly metal and punk, a little folk and Post Hardcore for good measure. I did recently buy the Cool Kids and new Common album and love both of them.Kanye is allright, but I couldnt listen to a whole album of that computer voice. What was your Dad’s store called? Any fond memories? Would have been a cool time to have a store CA.
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JoeMan
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Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:29 am Posts: 3818 Location: NY
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Just got Asher Roth's Global Warming mixtape. The dude who made I love college and is being hailed as the next Eminem. I love it. It's here for free if anyone else is interested. http://www.thedailykush.com/
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tavaro
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Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 pm Posts: 3165 Location: L.A.
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 straight from tehh slums of shaolin god.
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Zaaier
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JoeMan wrote: Just got Asher Roth's Global Warming mixtape. The dude who made I love college and is being hailed as the next Eminem. I love it. It's here for free if anyone else is interested. http://www.thedailykush.com/Asher Roth definately has talent. On the couple of joints i heard he spits a decent amount of variety, both in flow and content. I slightly understand where the Eminem comparison comes from - his vocals sound like he's singing from thru his nose... The 'i love college' rmx with Jim Jones was dope though. Recent hip hop 'bangers' = Bishop Lamont - bitches on my dick Sandman - big face benny Christian Lantry - brick rmx Cage - nothing left to say
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silver_lining_man
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so much kick ass hip-hop i've picked up in the last couple weeks: 1. mos def's ecstatic album is definitely worth many a spin! 2. p.o.s., minneapolis hip-hop, and almost better than atmosphere...almost. 3. wu are back? not only does rza's 2nd afro samurai soundtrack album own, but i've listened to a bit of the new wu album. good shit!
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Deadbone
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Nice selections. I'll have to check the new Mos album.
Recent faves are:
Kankick - From Artz Unknown (2001) The Alkaholiks (first 3 albums) 21 and Over (1993), Coast II Coast (1995), Likwidation (1997)
Fantastic compilation called: New York Sound: From The East Coast To The Future - Various Artists Late 70's - early 80's funk, disco rap and electro funk.
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el maz
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Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:24 am Posts: 1355 Location: lost angeles
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4 of my more recent favs... el-p "i'll sleep when you're dead" the new q-tip is a solid album raekwon's cuban linx 2 ghostface- fish scale
but i grew up on the yay area shit (as well as gangsta rap). but i always leaned more towards e-40 (and the click). i still get stoked when i see a new 40 water album droppin.
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Dean
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Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 pm Posts: 6232 Location: 415
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el maz wrote: el-p "i'll sleep when you're dead" Great album. Gotta pick up the Q-Tip. This crazy thing has been on "heavy rotation" at my place for awhile. Totally upbeat fun. 
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DeJesus
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el maz wrote: the new q-tip is a solid album also really like this. definitely worth a listen.
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GangStarr Jeru the Damaja Redman Everlast, yes I said it, get the new La Coka Nostra album, the man is a beast, and he pretty much freestyles everything he does... Cypress Hill Big L Beatnuts Biggie DeLaSoul
just some of the stuff that's on rotation...
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silver_lining_man
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el maz wrote: 4 of my more recent favs... el-p "i'll sleep when you're dead" the new q-tip is a solid album raekwon's cuban linx 2 ghostface- fish scale
but i grew up on the yay area shit (as well as gangsta rap). but i always leaned more towards e-40 (and the click). i still get stoked when i see a new 40 water album droppin. grabbed the el-p, so solid. i noticed raekwon's alb and method man/redman blackout! 2 the other day. passed on both for now, but really want to grab them. the first cuban linx was kind of a sleeper album, yet has a track with one of my all time favorite hip-hop beats on it...
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el maz
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cuban linx 2 is solid. has a real nice flow to it. meth shows up on 2 tracks and just kills it. great beats too. there are 2 dr dre tracks that stick out like a sore thumb. i don't hate them. but they don't fit in. i assume they are leftovers from when dre was supposed to do the album. so now we know what a west coast wu-tang album would sound like.
i say, pass on blackout 2. blackout 1 is one of my fav albums of all time (and oddly enough contains one of my alltime fav beats on da rockwilder). part 2 is decent...but not great. it doesn't have that cohesiveness. meth sounds a bit bored on it. redman actually sounds better than meth on some tracks. it was a disappointment overall. i also noticed the rza is not a producer on any of the shit, which could account for the different feel to it.
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silver_lining_man
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el maz wrote: i also noticed the rza is not a producer on any of the shit, which could account for the different feel to it. yeah, i noticed that too. what the hell is up with that? rza is one of the best hip-hop producers imo, why would you not utilize that wu-connection? also, any collaborations with MF Doom like on Ghostface's Fishscale & More Fish albums, or is doom only associated with gf?
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Yo, I thought this country was based upon freedom of speech Freedom of press, freedom of your own religion To make your own decision, now that's baloney Cause if I gotta play by your rules, I'm bein phoney
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Deadbone
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uberboy wrote: Yo, I thought this country was based upon freedom of speech Freedom of press, freedom of your own religion To make your own decision, now that's baloney Cause if I gotta play by your rules, I'm bein phoney  Classic ATL Funny, I just got back from a road trip and we listened to exactly that song. They don't make albums like that anymore.
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silver_lining_man
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el maz, i picked up that cuban linx 2 today. thanks for the notable mention, it is awesome!
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Aldo
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:41 am Posts: 1088 Location: Indianapolis
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I pretty much break it down like this:
70% Hardcore 15% Metal 5% Rock(Indie,Post Hardcore, ect) 10% Hip-Hop
Of the Hip-Hop genre these are either on my iPod or in my record box:
Aesop Rock Alias Astronautalis Atmosphere Bleubird Blueprint Brother Ali Cage(anything before DFM) Deep Puddle Dynamics El-P Felt Oddjobs P.O.S. Sole Why? Wax Tailor 13&God
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silver_lining_man wrote: el maz, i picked up that cuban linx 2 today. thanks for the notable mention, it is awesome! yeah its a good one! the suga bang track is my favorite
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